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We Used to Be Friends

Apr 6, 2025
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We attempt to get one of the great gaming classics running on Linux, and dig into some of the technical issues still holding back Linux. Plus: Chris has a new handheld.

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WEBVTT 00:00:13.941 --> 00:00:18.701 Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. 00:00:18.921 --> 00:00:19.681 My name is Wes. 00:00:19.941 --> 00:00:20.921 And my name is Brent. 00:00:21.321 --> 00:00:24.561 Hello, gentlemen. Coming up on the show today, we challenge each other to get 00:00:24.561 --> 00:00:29.261 one of the best games in history working on Linux, and then pit us all against 00:00:29.261 --> 00:00:30.761 each other to fight to the death. 00:00:31.061 --> 00:00:34.881 Then we'll tell you a bit about my new retro handheld gaming device that just came out. 00:00:35.441 --> 00:00:38.741 And if you should get one, it's pretty cool. And if we have time, 00:00:38.861 --> 00:00:42.281 we'll get into some of the technical reasons why games still never going to 00:00:42.281 --> 00:00:44.901 quite work on Linux. There's just going to be some games you're never going 00:00:44.901 --> 00:00:46.061 to play. But don't worry. 00:00:46.221 --> 00:00:50.141 We'll round it out with some great boosts, some excellent picks, and a lot more. 00:00:50.241 --> 00:00:54.661 So before we go any further, time-appropriate greetings to our virtual lug. Hello, Mumble Room. 00:00:55.821 --> 00:00:57.981 Hello. Hey, Chris. Hey, Wes. And hello, Brent. 00:00:58.141 --> 00:00:58.481 Hello. 00:00:58.781 --> 00:01:03.181 Hi. Thanks for being there. And hello. Wow. Hello, everybody up there in the quiet listening, too. 00:01:03.841 --> 00:01:08.281 And a big good morning to our friends at TailScale. TailScale.com slash unplugged. 00:01:08.981 --> 00:01:12.101 TailScale is the easiest way to connect devices and services to each other. 00:01:12.821 --> 00:01:17.681 Wherever they are, protected by WireGuard. Yeah, it's modern networking. 00:01:17.841 --> 00:01:22.561 It sets up a flat mesh network protected by WireGuard, and it is really fast. 00:01:22.701 --> 00:01:26.581 It's secure, and it's privacy for everyone in every organization. 00:01:27.021 --> 00:01:30.181 It's easy to deploy within minutes. If you've got five minutes, 00:01:30.201 --> 00:01:31.561 you'll get it working on three machines. 00:01:31.901 --> 00:01:36.341 And it is so handy once you have it up and running because all of your devices 00:01:36.341 --> 00:01:39.421 are now represented on your tail net, which is this flat mesh network. 00:01:39.421 --> 00:01:44.461 You could have systems across multiple data centers on your LAN, your mobile device. 00:01:44.981 --> 00:01:48.901 It is really powerful. And when you go to tailscale.com slash unplugged, 00:01:49.021 --> 00:01:53.341 you can get it for free on 100 devices and three users, no credit card required, 00:01:53.441 --> 00:01:54.481 not a limited time trial. 00:01:54.741 --> 00:01:57.301 And also, you might want to try it at work. 00:01:57.601 --> 00:02:00.561 We started using it personally, and now we use it for the back end of JB. 00:02:00.741 --> 00:02:02.661 So it is Instacart, Hugging Face, Duolingo. 00:02:03.181 --> 00:02:07.801 Thousands of other companies use Tailscale at work, too. And it fits and integrates so well. 00:02:08.221 --> 00:02:13.581 So try it for yourself. or try it for your business. Go to tailscale.com slash unplugged. 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:20.500 19 days left until LinuxFest Northwest. 00:02:20.980 --> 00:02:22.120 Why do you keep saying that? 00:02:22.420 --> 00:02:23.900 That seems so scary. 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:29.220 Yep. And if you're listening to this on Monday, 18. And if you're listening to it, it's sooner. 00:02:29.820 --> 00:02:32.640 We'll have a link to the schedule. And we have a poll. 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.620 And I would love it if everybody would just take a moment, go to the show notes, 00:02:35.760 --> 00:02:38.480 linuxunplugged.com slash 609 or in your podcast app. 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:44.760 And please go vote in our poll. Would you tune in to a live Saturday LinuxFest live stream? 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:50.020 Just let me know. because we could stream Saturday. We could definitely have 00:02:50.020 --> 00:02:52.320 stuff on the stream all day, but we don't want to necessarily set it up if people, 00:02:52.480 --> 00:02:54.860 maybe you take Saturdays off or whatever it might be. 00:02:55.020 --> 00:02:58.460 We will, of course, be live Sunday. We'll have our traditional Sunday live stream 00:02:58.460 --> 00:02:59.740 at LinuxFest Northwest. 00:03:00.140 --> 00:03:04.320 And then Wes has a talk in HC204 at 1.30 p.m. after that. 00:03:04.820 --> 00:03:09.420 So there is things coming up on Sunday and we'll be live for part of that in 00:03:09.420 --> 00:03:10.900 our regular 10 a.m. time slot. 00:03:11.160 --> 00:03:14.960 But if you'd like to tune into a Saturday live stream, let us know. 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.180 Go to the poll in the show notes. 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:19.900 And boat, please. And we are still raising funds. 00:03:20.100 --> 00:03:23.480 We have a couple of trips coming up. We have the bus trip. We have LinuxFest 00:03:23.480 --> 00:03:24.900 Northwest and Red Hat Summit. 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.140 And then later in the year, Texas LinuxFest. 00:03:27.600 --> 00:03:31.320 And we're trying to get some good, high-quality headsets, the SMD, 00:03:31.460 --> 00:03:36.580 or I'm sorry, the HMD-26s from Sennheiser, which are very pricey but good quality. 00:03:37.220 --> 00:03:41.580 And we're trying to raise some sats via boost to purchase those before the event 00:03:41.580 --> 00:03:43.020 comes up, which is like this week. 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.440 So really, it's like this week you've got to get them in because I've got to get the orders in. 00:03:46.860 --> 00:03:52.360 So if you'd like to help us with the Road Gear Fund, send us a boost and support the show. 00:03:56.018 --> 00:04:00.218 So we're finally doing a game night on the show we don't talk about gaming much 00:04:00.218 --> 00:04:05.978 and if we're going to finally do it it felt like we should do the absolute best 00:04:05.978 --> 00:04:11.838 video game and we should try to get the best video game working on linux of. 00:04:11.838 --> 00:04:16.738 Course i mean and we don't want to do things in the wrong order right. 00:04:16.738 --> 00:04:22.278 No i mean wait what us we would never we would never do things in the wrong order. 00:04:31.778 --> 00:04:37.378 Saturday before the show, four men assemble to conquer the galaxy. It's StarCraft time. 00:04:38.378 --> 00:04:41.218 Before we can play, though, we've got to get it working on Brent's system. 00:04:41.358 --> 00:04:43.398 What? Hey, why is it always me? 00:04:43.718 --> 00:04:46.378 We were going to ask you that. Well, to be fair, you were traveling. 00:04:46.718 --> 00:04:48.698 Oh, right. He has an excuse this week. 00:04:49.198 --> 00:04:52.358 Yeah, we'll let him have it. Oh, I have a script here of several excuses if you need them. 00:04:53.278 --> 00:04:56.898 You've got Lutris, right? Yes, that was great advice. Thank you. 00:04:57.058 --> 00:04:59.578 I know not what Lutris is, but you will tell me, right? 00:04:59.898 --> 00:05:04.278 Well, you could think of it as like a free game, a multi-game library. 00:05:04.418 --> 00:05:08.198 So you can put multiple different game libraries in there, sync them to Lutris and install them. 00:05:08.738 --> 00:05:12.738 Like, for example, you can go to their website and they have a massive library 00:05:12.738 --> 00:05:16.218 of games and then little installer scripts that Lutris can run and execute. 00:05:16.538 --> 00:05:19.918 And kind of just set everything up for that. So great. That sounds like exactly what I need. 00:05:20.318 --> 00:05:23.218 It is kind of nice because Starcraft 1, which we're playing, 00:05:23.338 --> 00:05:28.278 is a Windows game. And so you do need a wine environment, and you need a Battle.net 00:05:28.278 --> 00:05:33.518 software launcher and account and all that kind of crap. And so Lutris helps you get all that going. 00:05:33.918 --> 00:05:36.758 Or if you're on the Lutris site, you could just search for StarCraft there and 00:05:36.758 --> 00:05:40.998 pull down the... But it's probably, if you're in the app, yeah, hamburger menu away. 00:05:41.818 --> 00:05:44.538 Okay, I'm seeing many options here. 00:05:46.018 --> 00:05:49.558 You have a games option. Yeah, you just want the Battle.net installer. 00:05:49.858 --> 00:05:53.498 At least that's what Chris and I did. Yeah. So add games. 00:05:54.658 --> 00:05:58.518 And then you want to search the Lutris website, I guess? 00:05:58.618 --> 00:06:03.258 Yeah, I got StarCraft 98 Mac and Windows, StarCraft 64. I hear that's a good one. 00:06:04.518 --> 00:06:09.978 We're doing the OG StarCraft, which is 1998 for Mac and Windows. 00:06:10.098 --> 00:06:12.918 But are we trying to get him to do Battle.net through this or not? 00:06:13.098 --> 00:06:15.458 Yeah, so when you choose that one, it'll give you two options. 00:06:16.708 --> 00:06:19.508 And Battle.net will be the top option. Yeah, I've got two options here. 00:06:19.608 --> 00:06:23.708 Wine Battle.net or Wine CD plus CND Raw. 00:06:24.048 --> 00:06:25.728 So I'm assuming that's if I have the disk. 00:06:26.688 --> 00:06:31.988 Oh, see, I just installed Battle.net itself and then installed StarCraft through it. 00:06:32.128 --> 00:06:35.188 Totally can do that too. That's essentially what this is going to do is it's 00:06:35.188 --> 00:06:38.608 going to install Battle.net and then you're going to close it after it's done 00:06:38.608 --> 00:06:41.228 installing and then it's going to launch it again and you're going to log in 00:06:41.228 --> 00:06:42.848 and install StarCraft. I see. 00:06:43.288 --> 00:06:46.168 I was under the impression that Brent had already done this. 00:06:46.168 --> 00:06:50.668 Me too, me too, you know. Hey, I spent all morning thinking I would do this. 00:06:51.228 --> 00:06:55.868 I mean, that's at least some effort. So one of the things about StarCraft is 00:06:55.868 --> 00:06:59.988 there's a lot of different ways you can actually get it installed on Linux. 00:07:00.428 --> 00:07:04.408 It is a classic real-time strategy game from Blizzard. It launched in 1998, 00:07:04.408 --> 00:07:07.348 and it's still beloved to this day. 00:07:07.508 --> 00:07:13.468 It's a huge hit, and it's been free to play since 2017, but you do have to have a Battle.net account. 00:07:13.948 --> 00:07:18.228 Which involves uh maybe the worst captcha system ever devised. 00:07:18.228 --> 00:07:19.988 Yeah yeah by far. 00:07:19.988 --> 00:07:23.928 The worst one i've ever experienced which i think it's worth even if you don't 00:07:23.928 --> 00:07:27.008 want an account here just go try that captcha it is life-changing. 00:07:27.008 --> 00:07:28.008 Yeah and. 00:07:28.008 --> 00:07:30.188 If you don't want an account it's better because you can quit when you're bored. 00:07:30.188 --> 00:07:32.968 And it also just be great to point 00:07:32.968 --> 00:07:36.848 to as the worst implementation ever so we're stacking a few things here so we 00:07:36.848 --> 00:07:42.508 have lutris which is this incredibly useful game launcher that is helping us 00:07:42.508 --> 00:07:47.108 manage the wine stuff and pull down the files we need to install battle.net 00:07:47.108 --> 00:07:50.048 which then installs starcraft that's 00:07:50.048 --> 00:07:52.368 we all but there's a lot of different ways you could go at it that's. 00:07:52.368 --> 00:07:56.248 The way we went at it when you say it like that uh it almost sounds like it 00:07:56.248 --> 00:08:01.328 shouldn't work and yet this was like a super ultimately reliable method to have it work yeah. 00:08:03.459 --> 00:08:06.959 I was wondering halfway through going through this, but you guys were pressuring 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:10.499 me so much. I just kept going. But why in the world do we not just use Steam? 00:08:12.299 --> 00:08:15.699 So you can do it with Steam, but it's a little bit more of a rigmarole. 00:08:15.799 --> 00:08:20.119 So you have to add the game, run it, and then you can use Proton to launch it. 00:08:20.139 --> 00:08:21.699 But you kind of have to do like the manually add stuff. 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.239 Because one of the things that really sucks about gaming since StarCraft came 00:08:25.239 --> 00:08:27.819 out is everybody has their own platform. 00:08:28.299 --> 00:08:31.439 Everybody has their own launcher. Everybody has their own login. 00:08:32.059 --> 00:08:35.579 And we're going to talk about a retro handheld gaming console in a little bit. 00:08:36.339 --> 00:08:40.559 But one of the things that's been drawing me to old ROMs is I am sick of all 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.759 of this. I'm just sick of having to have accounts everywhere. 00:08:43.899 --> 00:08:49.819 And I was willing to go through it for StarCraft. But yeah, because everybody 00:08:49.819 --> 00:08:51.859 has to have their own kingdom is essentially the answer, Brent. 00:08:52.019 --> 00:08:54.239 And you can do it with Steam, but it's a little more manual. 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.059 But then you can have Steam Managed Proton, which is kind of nice. 00:08:58.239 --> 00:09:01.959 So yeah, that was our initial thing. But we got it running, actually, 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:06.119 you heard it there pretty much in real time. And then it was time for game one. 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:08.579 So here we go. All right. 00:09:11.239 --> 00:09:14.159 Starting in five seconds. I'm getting nervous. 00:09:21.619 --> 00:09:24.499 Okay, so on the menu there, go to... 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.759 Oh, no, sorry, the bottom left. Diplomacy, where the little handshake is. 00:09:30.659 --> 00:09:36.399 Click allies on all of us and vision on all of us and allied victory and then accept, 00:09:38.739 --> 00:09:41.779 Nice so Brent the first thing we're gonna do is click that one building you 00:09:41.779 --> 00:09:46.039 have and the one thing it can create that's gonna be the guys that can like 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:47.879 mine for you and build for you and. 00:09:49.345 --> 00:09:53.865 Not only did we have to get Brent with the game installed, we had to teach Brent how to play. 00:09:54.285 --> 00:09:57.525 Mostly, me too. I probably hadn't played since like 2003, 2005. 00:09:57.725 --> 00:09:58.625 It had been a really long time. 00:09:59.065 --> 00:10:03.005 Yeah, I confess I had never played it, which is, I don't know, 00:10:03.145 --> 00:10:07.805 a little bit of a crime for our kind of people. But I had played a lot of Red Alert. 00:10:08.745 --> 00:10:12.285 I also have an extra confession, which is I tried to get my brother to play 00:10:12.285 --> 00:10:14.785 for me instead because he's played StarCraft in the past. 00:10:15.105 --> 00:10:17.825 And I was going to try to just slot him in without you guys noticing. 00:10:17.825 --> 00:10:19.985 But oh my god he. 00:10:19.985 --> 00:10:22.825 Got busy yeah so maybe next time. 00:10:22.825 --> 00:10:26.045 I will say i hope i hope this was um, 00:10:26.905 --> 00:10:31.765 satisfying for producer jeff uh because he has been trying to get us to play 00:10:31.765 --> 00:10:35.605 some starcraft for like way too long so it's on us for taking so long and i 00:10:35.605 --> 00:10:40.145 think he rightfully pointed out at one point that you know brian if you'd listened 00:10:40.145 --> 00:10:42.865 to him earlier you would you would have been upskilled on starcraft. 00:10:42.865 --> 00:10:46.185 I should listen to jeff more often that's probably the truth. 00:10:46.185 --> 00:10:50.045 Jeff was our teacher during this too um he 00:10:50.045 --> 00:10:53.465 you know he had probably the most experience followed by wes i guess uh or 00:10:53.465 --> 00:10:56.685 maybe i'm not sure we'll get to that but um 00:10:56.685 --> 00:11:01.345 i sat down in the studio so we could record the audio of all of us and the studio 00:11:01.345 --> 00:11:06.425 is set up for recording not for gaming and one of the things i have in the studio 00:11:06.425 --> 00:11:10.585 which i don't have on any other computer is one of these giant kingston track 00:11:10.585 --> 00:11:13.985 balls because i can move my mouse silently while recording it. 00:11:13.985 --> 00:11:17.845 Is actually pretty legit a great little hack for live presentations. 00:11:17.845 --> 00:11:22.505 So i sat down i said chris you're gonna be a man you're not gonna complain about 00:11:22.505 --> 00:11:27.125 the fact that you're playing starcraft on this horrible horrible trackball you're 00:11:27.125 --> 00:11:30.305 just gonna suck it up and never even mention it to the boys i. 00:11:30.305 --> 00:11:34.425 Gotta clean my trackball real quick it's getting bad uh-oh what do you got in 00:11:34.425 --> 00:11:40.505 there i don't know dude but it's it's causing accuracy issues oh sure hey excuses 00:11:40.505 --> 00:11:44.605 begin yep i just spilled tea all over my mouse Oh, you guys. 00:11:44.785 --> 00:11:45.905 Oh, no. Talk about excuses. 00:11:47.965 --> 00:11:49.165 It's hot tea, too, that works. 00:11:50.566 --> 00:11:53.646 Pretty quickly, it goes from excuses to just straight-up dying. 00:11:53.986 --> 00:11:57.166 Uh-oh, I'm under attack. I'm under attack, boys. I'm under attack. 00:11:57.526 --> 00:12:01.006 They're getting me, boys. Oh, I was doing so good, boys. There's a lot over 00:12:01.006 --> 00:12:03.306 there, too. I don't even have that many yet. No, I'm dead. 00:12:03.886 --> 00:12:07.806 I had such a good... Where are you? I'm in the bottom left. Right. 00:12:07.906 --> 00:12:11.646 I'm in the bottom right. Oh, no, boys! It was such a beautiful paradise! 00:12:13.046 --> 00:12:16.266 I got to kill you, guys. We were a little too slow. 00:12:17.246 --> 00:12:21.046 I can try to send to you. I don't have a ton. It was so beautiful. 00:12:21.306 --> 00:12:24.706 Yeah, I've got a couple on their way. I had all the basic structures. 00:12:26.266 --> 00:12:31.646 Oh, you got double whammyed. Marines are there, too. Both units are there. We were way too slow. 00:12:31.846 --> 00:12:37.186 So maybe starting as a couple of rookies with computer opponents wasn't a great idea. 00:12:37.326 --> 00:12:38.406 On a fastest map. 00:12:38.766 --> 00:12:44.346 Yeah, yeah. So we all kind of pretty quickly died and started game two. 00:12:45.306 --> 00:12:49.226 Are you guys ready? It's kind of great. 00:12:49.226 --> 00:12:53.446 I'm distracted because if I move my mouse all the way from one screen to the 00:12:53.446 --> 00:12:59.846 other The StarCraft cursor shows up on the non-StarCraft screen That's fun It's 00:12:59.846 --> 00:13:01.246 just trapped at the edge though, 00:13:02.106 --> 00:13:04.406 What do you mean it's not working, Chris? 00:13:05.806 --> 00:13:09.726 No Are you just trolling? I'll hit and go, 00:13:12.706 --> 00:13:15.966 So typical Round two. 00:13:21.051 --> 00:13:28.191 What I realized as we started playing is that I just love setting everything up. Clicking stuff. 00:13:29.111 --> 00:13:33.271 Yeah, you were really keyed in on building the society, which was kind of fun. 00:13:33.391 --> 00:13:33.551 Yeah. 00:13:33.851 --> 00:13:35.031 And there's a lot to build. 00:13:35.251 --> 00:13:40.371 I just, I was really vibing on just making a thriving science-based society 00:13:40.371 --> 00:13:43.131 and clicking on stuff. I was really enjoying that part. 00:13:43.291 --> 00:13:47.731 I just like building a cool base. I just, that's all I want to do is build a thriving society. 00:13:49.571 --> 00:13:52.431 We could play Siv That works on Linux If. 00:13:52.431 --> 00:13:56.291 Anybody that knows Starcraft probably knows How that ended up for me but we'll 00:13:56.291 --> 00:13:59.711 get there First there was some trolling Hello Wes. 00:13:59.791 --> 00:14:00.591 Goodbye Wes, 00:14:02.951 --> 00:14:07.171 Oh, what happened? Hey, that's mean I'm just saying hi. 00:14:08.571 --> 00:14:11.851 A little strategy of coming around and just pecking at us From time to time, 00:14:11.871 --> 00:14:16.651 you know, just Decimating a few of our troops Just making sure we weren't getting 00:14:16.651 --> 00:14:20.591 too far rolling it back a little bit, wasting some of our resources. 00:14:21.171 --> 00:14:24.131 Yeah, I kind of manage things all day. Why am I doing it now for gaming? 00:14:24.271 --> 00:14:29.151 What's going on here? How did I talk myself into this? Resource management's exhausting. 00:14:32.211 --> 00:14:37.071 There was always probably the likelihood that some kind of plan would have to 00:14:37.071 --> 00:14:41.991 formulate because now it was the three of us. We're on an open world map. 00:14:43.131 --> 00:14:46.091 Eventually, we're going to bump into each other as we grow, right? 00:14:46.091 --> 00:14:48.691 And so we have to kind of start sorting things out. 00:14:50.251 --> 00:14:55.051 I have like a very, very, very rough idea of kind of what I want to do, but not really. 00:14:55.211 --> 00:14:59.231 And then I'm constantly just failing to execute on that as I switch between 00:14:59.231 --> 00:15:01.731 managing way too many tasks that I'm managing very poorly. Yeah. 00:15:03.518 --> 00:15:04.618 I think you guys are doing great. 00:15:05.678 --> 00:15:09.258 Thanks. He's like, I know exactly where everyone is, and I have a plan. 00:15:10.898 --> 00:15:13.698 No plan. I'm just doing my thing. That's all. 00:15:14.318 --> 00:15:18.558 And then, you know, I noticed, at first I thought it was PJ. 00:15:19.298 --> 00:15:21.658 But then I realized, once I 00:15:21.658 --> 00:15:25.838 realized this who was who, Wes was doing a little poking around early on. 00:15:26.078 --> 00:15:31.438 Hey, I was just scouting around. Oh, scouting around with a bunch of really powerful guys. Okay. 00:15:33.458 --> 00:15:36.018 What they died they had real quick they weren't powerful, 00:15:40.898 --> 00:15:46.298 you know the Protoss shuttle really it's just not a powerful but the high Templars 00:15:46.298 --> 00:15:49.378 you know they're they're not powerful either. 00:15:50.118 --> 00:15:53.978 Brent and I were playing the Terrans I think it's kind of an easier one to start with, 00:15:54.818 --> 00:15:58.118 and Brent you were really good you manufactured pretty quick I also noticed 00:15:58.118 --> 00:16:03.998 you had a sneaky strategy one that I used to employ back in the day which once 00:16:03.998 --> 00:16:07.358 things started to get a little more aggressive you started stashing your workers 00:16:07.358 --> 00:16:10.138 all over the map in like hidden little spots that. 00:16:10.138 --> 00:16:12.058 Deeply saved me in the future. 00:16:12.058 --> 00:16:13.458 Yeah Brent's. 00:16:13.458 --> 00:16:17.478 A survivor because I didn't trust myself to keep myself alive so I figured I 00:16:17.478 --> 00:16:21.558 would just trust obscurity to keep me alive and that paid off. 00:16:21.558 --> 00:16:30.818 A little piece of advice Brent those tanks are called siege tanks for a reason Let's see. Oh... 00:16:32.169 --> 00:16:35.029 Oh, jeez, that's cool. All right, thank you. 00:16:35.249 --> 00:16:40.449 That siege mode gives them much, much better range and much better attack. 00:16:41.089 --> 00:16:44.329 Brent started to get the hang of it. Started manufacturing. 00:16:44.989 --> 00:16:48.869 Pretty sure Jeff regretted telling me that little trick because I used it against 00:16:48.869 --> 00:16:51.209 him quite a lot, let's say. 00:16:51.749 --> 00:16:57.169 And I realized at that point I would sneaky use some LLMs off screen. 00:16:57.169 --> 00:16:59.689 I didn't tell you guys this, but I would get a little stressed. 00:16:59.749 --> 00:17:02.529 Because I was like, I've never played this before. I don't even know what I 00:17:02.529 --> 00:17:03.309 can do with these people. 00:17:03.409 --> 00:17:08.129 As soon as Jeff said, hey, you're missing one of the key elements these players 00:17:08.129 --> 00:17:10.209 can do, I was like, I need some help. 00:17:10.629 --> 00:17:14.229 So, yeah, you know, multi-monitor, you can sneak in some LMs there. 00:17:14.249 --> 00:17:15.149 So I got some strategies. 00:17:15.429 --> 00:17:20.389 Oh, you clever boy. I should have done that because while I had a thriving, 00:17:20.629 --> 00:17:24.049 beautiful, peaceful society, it started to become painfully obvious. 00:17:24.049 --> 00:17:27.149 We're running out of room and I was going to need to retool. 00:17:27.149 --> 00:17:30.909 Well, my once beautiful society has had to refactor around war, 00:17:30.909 --> 00:17:34.969 thanks to Jeff. Hey, I haven't attacked anybody except for Wes. 00:17:35.449 --> 00:17:36.529 Or Wes. 00:17:37.849 --> 00:17:39.989 I mean, that's a loose definition. 00:17:40.949 --> 00:17:46.049 However, with my limited resources, a path began to emerge. 00:17:46.549 --> 00:17:51.089 The boys started talking about something. I had gone kind of quiet at this point. 00:17:51.269 --> 00:17:56.009 And I was focused on one thing and one thing only. And I don't know if Wes had 00:17:56.009 --> 00:17:59.249 kind of maybe thought about it, but I was already down a path. 00:17:59.709 --> 00:18:06.829 I would also like to point out that I believe you guys have access to nukes. 00:18:07.389 --> 00:18:09.669 What? Where? Yes, they do. 00:18:10.929 --> 00:18:14.829 Yeah, Terrans can build nukes. Yeah, so... It can be hard to pull off, 00:18:14.929 --> 00:18:18.009 but... The command center has a couple expansions that can be added, 00:18:18.129 --> 00:18:20.229 that can add to it, so you might want to have a couple command centers. 00:18:20.449 --> 00:18:23.609 One of them is a SATCOM, which can see invisible things anywhere on the map. 00:18:24.329 --> 00:18:28.149 For a limited amount of time. The other is a nuclear silo, which then you use 00:18:28.149 --> 00:18:31.829 ghosts to aim and fire your nukes. 00:18:31.929 --> 00:18:36.849 As you guys are talking about this, I'm like actively churning out ghosts, doing the research. 00:18:37.489 --> 00:18:41.029 I was like down that path, and I'm like, yep, yep, yep. 00:18:42.449 --> 00:18:42.989 Uh-oh. 00:18:45.469 --> 00:18:50.729 Nothing. Uh-huh. Nothing in my ass. I heard it. I just don't know where it's 00:18:50.729 --> 00:18:52.089 going to go. I don't know what you're talking about. 00:18:54.149 --> 00:18:55.229 I wouldn't make stuff up. 00:18:57.929 --> 00:18:58.809 Oh, Brantley. 00:19:01.349 --> 00:19:02.049 That's my CG. 00:19:02.069 --> 00:19:05.629 Oh, it felt good. That felt good. That felt so good. You know, 00:19:05.849 --> 00:19:09.829 once I had nuclear capabilities, I kind of had to, you know, see what I could do. 00:19:10.029 --> 00:19:13.409 Someone keeps doing nukes. Yeah, but they're just at my door. 00:19:13.409 --> 00:19:15.869 You know, it's basically my own neighborhood. 00:19:17.969 --> 00:19:23.189 You know, like. Just a little backdoor nuke. Yeah. A little backdoor nuke. 00:19:23.629 --> 00:19:25.069 They're basically my Nevada. 00:19:25.929 --> 00:19:27.629 You guys are just in the space. 00:19:28.809 --> 00:19:32.329 Now, listening back to this, it kind of sounds like I provoked this war. 00:19:32.429 --> 00:19:33.189 It does, yeah. 00:19:33.189 --> 00:19:35.089 I was just defending my territory. 00:19:35.909 --> 00:19:40.769 Damn. All right. All right, I see that. It's all good. 00:19:42.529 --> 00:19:46.029 Just because they're there at the door Again You wouldn't even know how to do 00:19:46.029 --> 00:19:46.869 if you weren't at the door, 00:19:50.669 --> 00:19:55.109 So I think So why don't you try getting a nuke Have you considered nuking something 00:19:55.109 --> 00:19:59.269 a little closer to home That's all I'm saying Or like a little closer to Jeff's 00:19:59.269 --> 00:20:01.249 home Oh well the problem is the ghosts get detected, 00:20:03.409 --> 00:20:09.889 He's got ghost detectors Sure but if you work on that Is there another thing I can do This. 00:20:09.889 --> 00:20:13.909 Is a turning point because this is really like, I am going to solely focus my 00:20:13.909 --> 00:20:17.029 society on producing weapons of mass destruction. 00:20:17.869 --> 00:20:21.929 And I think maybe Jeff realized that was going to be a problem. 00:20:22.429 --> 00:20:24.769 Now, don't come, now, come on, come on, come on, come on, don't come over here. 00:20:24.869 --> 00:20:27.009 Don't come over, come on. I got a good thing going over here. 00:20:28.529 --> 00:20:33.369 I got a good thing going over here. I've rebuilt a new, oh, come on! Bro! 00:20:36.529 --> 00:20:44.489 Bro! I don't even have any defensive systems. It was a peaceful society! Bro! 00:20:49.529 --> 00:20:53.949 That was the best! There is no peace in this universe. 00:20:54.449 --> 00:20:57.569 We were a society of science. 00:20:58.009 --> 00:21:02.749 I will admit, I took it rough. I did manage to get a few of my guys to escape. 00:21:03.009 --> 00:21:08.269 You should be destroying Jeff's base while he's distracted, murdering me ruthlessly. 00:21:08.529 --> 00:21:11.669 You both should get on it. This is your window of opportunity. 00:21:13.969 --> 00:21:21.849 Oh, God. Oh, God. I just built that. I just built that. 00:21:23.829 --> 00:21:29.289 If you want to send a guy down to me, I can let that happen. Oh, it's too late, Wes. 00:21:29.869 --> 00:21:33.669 It's too late. I didn't have any defensive systems. 00:21:34.029 --> 00:21:39.449 I didn't even build nuclear capabilities this time. It was a peaceful society. 00:21:39.849 --> 00:21:44.569 It wasn't a peaceful society, and I already had men on their way to Wes's base. 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:55.300 1password.com slash unplugged. That's the number 1password.com slash unplugged, all lowercase. 00:21:55.560 --> 00:21:59.200 Now, imagine your company security, sort of like the quad of a college campus. 00:21:59.320 --> 00:22:02.020 You've got your nice brick paths between all of the buildings. 00:22:02.260 --> 00:22:05.440 Those are the ones the company built, right? The company owned devices in our 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:09.400 analogy, if you will. Your IT approved apps, your managed employee identities. 00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:13.340 And then there's the paths people actually use. We've all seen them. 00:22:13.420 --> 00:22:14.940 The shortcuts worn through the grass. 00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:17.960 Those are the actual straightest line from point A to point B. 00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:23.280 Those are the unmanaged devices, shadow IT apps, the non-employee identities 00:22:23.280 --> 00:22:26.340 like contractors. And I've been on both sides of that. 00:22:26.760 --> 00:22:31.040 Most security tools only work on those happy brick paths. 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I can hide some guys over there. 00:23:45.937 --> 00:23:47.337 Wes seems like he knows what he's doing. 00:23:47.977 --> 00:23:48.797 Party at my base. 00:23:49.877 --> 00:23:53.117 And Wes comes in for the save. Can he save Brent's one last guy? 00:23:54.377 --> 00:23:58.117 Probably not, but you know. Brent, bring him over to my base. What? 00:23:59.497 --> 00:24:00.697 No, you're going to... 00:24:02.217 --> 00:24:03.137 No, not that way. 00:24:06.017 --> 00:24:08.497 Or maybe go to Wes's base, actually. It's probably safer there. 00:24:08.537 --> 00:24:09.577 You should go to my base, yeah. 00:24:10.337 --> 00:24:14.837 I don't know which one's which. Wes is down in the right corner. Yeah, go bottom right. 00:24:16.077 --> 00:24:20.497 So we, all three of us, cram into Wes's territory. It was tight. 00:24:21.037 --> 00:24:24.477 My guys, I had to go super far to get the resources and weave through all of 00:24:24.477 --> 00:24:26.237 Wes's guys, because Wes really packed them in there. 00:24:26.337 --> 00:24:29.417 Well, yeah, I mean, I had filled most of my land with photon cannons, 00:24:29.517 --> 00:24:31.897 so there wasn't a lot of room to begin with. You were welcome, 00:24:31.997 --> 00:24:33.537 of course, as allies, but... 00:24:33.537 --> 00:24:38.377 I was actually lucky to survive at this point because, Jeff, 00:24:38.877 --> 00:24:45.077 I used to love you, but you came to my base and just decimated everything just 00:24:45.077 --> 00:24:46.357 because I was sieging a little bit. 00:24:46.577 --> 00:24:50.457 And it turned out I had lost track of one of my builder guys, 00:24:50.577 --> 00:24:51.897 the SVGs or whatever they're called. 00:24:52.337 --> 00:24:57.017 And he was actually trapped behind some of my last buildings. 00:24:57.017 --> 00:25:00.597 So I couldn't actually move this character the entire game because I had trapped it there. 00:25:00.957 --> 00:25:04.737 But I guess Jeff never noticed. And that was my last. I had like the one unit 00:25:04.737 --> 00:25:08.917 left and I quickly dashed over to Wes's base and survived. And Wes, 00:25:09.017 --> 00:25:09.997 thank you for the real estate. 00:25:10.217 --> 00:25:12.477 I was able to rebuild and siege again. 00:25:13.017 --> 00:25:18.497 Rebuild quickly. You did. I focused on nukes. Brent began building a new force. 00:25:19.157 --> 00:25:20.037 Jeff started getting worried. 00:25:20.817 --> 00:25:22.077 Nuclear launch detected. 00:25:24.777 --> 00:25:27.997 I think Wes is going to have me. He's just got way too much defense. 00:25:30.157 --> 00:25:36.417 I might just have to give it up. There's no way I can get through those cannons. 00:25:39.577 --> 00:25:43.377 Look, there's just a few. Just a few. 00:25:43.737 --> 00:25:47.577 This is really when the siege set in. I mean, Jeff put up a heck of a fight, 00:25:47.597 --> 00:25:49.737 and Wes brought a ton of carriers. 00:25:51.437 --> 00:25:54.777 Holy cow, that's a lot of carriers. Now you're playing how I like to play. 00:25:56.977 --> 00:25:59.017 Send a hundred carriers, let's go. 00:26:04.937 --> 00:26:09.297 Come on guys, come on, do I have an air defense? Nope, they got nuked. 00:26:11.297 --> 00:26:12.997 Alright guys, come on, get him! 00:26:15.692 --> 00:26:18.012 This is probably the moment that was always destined to happen, 00:26:18.312 --> 00:26:21.092 where all three of us begun working together on the attack. 00:26:21.532 --> 00:26:27.832 Pay attention to what these guys are firing at. Oh no, siege tanks. No! 00:26:28.812 --> 00:26:34.012 Brent! Brent! Brent! Yes! Brent! Yes! Yes! 00:26:35.492 --> 00:26:38.512 I gotta return the favor, you know? Oh no! 00:26:39.212 --> 00:26:42.012 Brent comes in with the siege tanks. I drop the nukes. 00:26:42.352 --> 00:26:46.732 Oh, you guys are awesome, man. Yeah, the nuke at the same time as you come in, 00:26:46.852 --> 00:26:49.512 I'm just, there's no way I can find it. There's no way. 00:26:50.152 --> 00:26:53.392 I won't have enough time. Done. Nice! 00:26:55.752 --> 00:27:01.172 That was so good! I like hearing that. That was so good. I like hearing that a lot. 00:27:03.512 --> 00:27:04.472 Holy cow! 00:27:06.812 --> 00:27:07.952 Get out of here, Arbiter. 00:27:08.552 --> 00:27:15.652 Over three hours into it, like, really, a hell of a fight. I think the end was 00:27:15.652 --> 00:27:19.292 in sight around the three hour, 15, maybe 10 minute mark. 00:27:19.512 --> 00:27:23.872 It just took some time because, you know, Jeff had really built himself a nice base. 00:27:26.152 --> 00:27:31.812 You're building on my base. You guys are getting in. Look at this. This is insane. 00:27:36.412 --> 00:27:38.452 I've never seen nothing like this. 00:27:42.792 --> 00:27:48.032 Holy cow. Oh, the shuttles. Oh, Templars. No. 00:27:50.892 --> 00:27:56.052 Look at this chaos. Oh, I'm so done for. 00:27:56.112 --> 00:27:59.072 Send it all in. And then I started focusing on resources because, 00:27:59.152 --> 00:28:01.612 you know, I didn't want Jeff's economy to hold up. 00:28:06.172 --> 00:28:06.732 Oh. 00:28:10.732 --> 00:28:12.892 No. No! No, she detected. 00:28:19.251 --> 00:28:21.531 Where are you? There you are. 00:28:25.431 --> 00:28:31.691 Oh, you got him. Okay. Not fast enough. Dang, you must have an upgrade on your 00:28:31.691 --> 00:28:33.251 nukes. Those things are coming quick now. 00:28:34.511 --> 00:28:38.691 Jeff, you forced me to be a society from peace that focuses on weapons of war. 00:28:42.131 --> 00:28:47.491 How does it make you feel? Oh, that's a lot of Archons. 00:28:49.351 --> 00:28:52.411 Oh, that's a lot of Archons. Affirmative. 00:28:54.331 --> 00:29:00.571 Now, I really saw, you know, the sort of twisted side of Brent come out during the end of this battle. 00:29:00.691 --> 00:29:01.191 Oh, really? 00:29:01.351 --> 00:29:01.951 Yeah. Oh, no. 00:29:02.491 --> 00:29:04.591 I don't really. I kind of blacked out. 00:29:04.751 --> 00:29:07.611 Oh, he's wrecking Brent's upper base. He's wrecking Brent's upper base. 00:29:09.251 --> 00:29:11.491 Brent, you got guys there that aren't doing anything up there. 00:29:14.671 --> 00:29:18.291 It's because all my rally points were in Jeff's base. 00:29:20.511 --> 00:29:23.571 Do you set your base rally points straight to the base? Yeah. 00:29:23.571 --> 00:29:25.111 That's funny. Yeah, to your base. 00:29:26.771 --> 00:29:29.131 Oh, I love it. I love it. 00:29:29.311 --> 00:29:33.791 Brett's just cranking out guys and just sending them right to Jeff's base the entire time. 00:29:33.791 --> 00:29:34.431 Very pragmatic. 00:29:34.771 --> 00:29:37.071 My annihilation was swift and complete. 00:29:37.471 --> 00:29:41.771 Yeah, really, the best part, though, was when the economy collapsed. That felt good. 00:29:43.311 --> 00:29:50.631 Focus your attacks. Focus your attacks. Oh, there's more. Oh. 00:29:56.189 --> 00:30:02.029 No, and that's it. That's it. There's no way, 00:30:04.849 --> 00:30:07.089 I'm just gonna start talking Brent just because, 00:30:09.489 --> 00:30:11.869 His base has gotten way too big over there, 00:30:15.169 --> 00:30:23.649 You guys you guys put up a damn fight here So do you see one-on-one Whatever 00:30:23.649 --> 00:30:26.929 that would have been fine, but this this is treachery. 00:30:28.609 --> 00:30:30.229 I Was peaceful dude, 00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:39.809 Same same I don't think that's the name of the game As much as you want to tell yourself. 00:30:40.229 --> 00:30:42.789 Oh nuclear launch where's that coming from? 00:30:43.289 --> 00:30:50.049 You gotta go sit here of course how'd you get rid of my lurkers oh the uh cannon 00:30:50.049 --> 00:30:51.809 the turrets their detectors nice, 00:30:55.309 --> 00:31:01.109 yeah these guys are not focusing on nothing come on at least get one more carry 00:31:01.109 --> 00:31:11.629 there's so many down oh no that's it nice oh that is it oh man where goes my economy, 00:31:13.709 --> 00:31:16.869 me. I can't even make one more little guy. 00:31:17.189 --> 00:31:22.469 Now, it wasn't quite it. There was a couple of floaters, and you can understand, 00:31:22.469 --> 00:31:27.209 as a society that was now built around creating weapons of mass destruction, 00:31:27.209 --> 00:31:31.109 I had quite the pipeline, and well, I had more birds to fly, 00:31:31.329 --> 00:31:35.189 and my society has the view you can't make an omelet without cracking a few 00:31:35.189 --> 00:31:37.809 eggs, and sometimes it's worth finishing them off. 00:31:38.829 --> 00:31:41.649 Nuclear launch detected what are you blowing up buddy, 00:31:47.405 --> 00:31:48.425 Oh, man. 00:31:51.525 --> 00:31:51.925 Actually. 00:31:54.225 --> 00:31:57.745 Oh, yeah, he did. Oh, no, he blew up. Either himself or Brent. 00:32:01.485 --> 00:32:05.605 Hey, sometimes you got to crack a few eggs. There it is. 00:32:06.685 --> 00:32:11.205 Good job. Oh, I see. Are the tides turning? Good job. 00:32:11.585 --> 00:32:12.745 Yeah, this is where Chris decided. 00:32:13.005 --> 00:32:14.225 I was just trying to get rid of one guy left. 00:32:14.225 --> 00:32:18.085 It was worth nuking Jeff's last guy. 00:32:18.345 --> 00:32:22.225 You know, if you had to take out some of my cannons and a bunch of my units, it was no problem. 00:32:22.485 --> 00:32:25.585 A couple of Brent's soldiers, too, I think. 00:32:25.725 --> 00:32:25.985 Yeah. 00:32:26.365 --> 00:32:31.285 But, you know, it was a dramatic way to end it. We captured our immediate thoughts after the game. 00:32:31.585 --> 00:32:37.485 Well done, gentlemen. Jeff, you only lasted four hours. Oh, my God. 00:32:37.725 --> 00:32:41.105 So, looking at the units, Wes had... 00:32:41.945 --> 00:32:47.565 You did the best of it. Holy cow. Uh, no, well, not according to mine. I did so poorly. 00:32:47.925 --> 00:32:50.605 Oh, total. My total score is higher, but that's because my structure is higher. 00:32:51.085 --> 00:32:56.545 At the end, I just entirely focused on nuclear capability. I just, that's all I did. Yeah. 00:32:57.125 --> 00:33:02.605 Which was great. What does units mean? Like, how are you building that many 00:33:02.605 --> 00:33:04.445 things? Just constantly building. 00:33:04.985 --> 00:33:09.105 I mean, Zerg builds fast. I can't click fast enough. Oh, I see. Yeah. 00:33:09.505 --> 00:33:13.125 For Terran, you have to use multiple barracks, multiple buildings, 00:33:13.125 --> 00:33:15.625 and then you queue them up. You do four or five at a time or whatever. 00:33:16.105 --> 00:33:19.685 For Zerg, I can double-click. There's these little grubs that are next to the 00:33:19.685 --> 00:33:22.685 hatcheries, and there's three of them per hatchery, so I can build three at a time. 00:33:22.825 --> 00:33:26.805 So if I double-click them, I got a bunch of hatcheries, I can click 12 and build 00:33:26.805 --> 00:33:29.045 12 of the same unit at the same time in parallel. 00:33:31.225 --> 00:33:33.985 It's the kind of game you could literally play for 20 years. Oh, yeah. 00:33:34.745 --> 00:33:37.785 And look at that. We just played for three hours. Three hours and 20 minutes 00:33:37.785 --> 00:33:40.585 and not a single glitch on any of our Linux boxes. No, of course not. 00:33:41.793 --> 00:33:45.953 I even, I was using alt tab and I got multiple screens going. 00:33:46.013 --> 00:33:47.073 Oh, he's looking up strategies. 00:33:47.353 --> 00:33:51.353 What are you doing on this? Oh, he's on perplexity. That's what's going on. Okay. 00:33:52.033 --> 00:33:56.473 I definitely have a perplexity strategy screen up. Oh, wow. I should have thought 00:33:56.473 --> 00:33:58.193 of it. That's great. I didn't do that either. 00:33:59.313 --> 00:34:01.953 I actually stopped looking at it, but at the very start of the game, 00:34:01.953 --> 00:34:06.493 I did ask for a sort of like, if I want to build a lot of Archons, what step should I do? 00:34:06.693 --> 00:34:09.973 Now I know. Now I know. That's the secret. Well, good job, boys. 00:34:10.413 --> 00:34:13.113 All right. All right. Well, so Brent, I want to hear your thoughts on it. 00:34:13.193 --> 00:34:17.793 How do you think the game held up, how it worked on Linux, getting it going, all of that? 00:34:18.193 --> 00:34:22.533 Yeah, I was running this thing on my dev one because I figured, you know, why not? 00:34:23.233 --> 00:34:29.353 And it ran great. I would say the most painful part was the setup only because 00:34:29.353 --> 00:34:31.833 I was unfamiliar with like all these launchers and things like that. 00:34:32.113 --> 00:34:35.213 That's what friends are for, right? To guide me through that path. 00:34:35.793 --> 00:34:38.633 But as far as install goes everything was 00:34:38.633 --> 00:34:42.093 super smooth no errors at all and throughout 00:34:42.093 --> 00:34:47.633 the gameplay i kind of completely forgot that we were doing a thing that wasn't 00:34:47.633 --> 00:34:52.633 meant to be done by the original makers of the game so total success from that 00:34:52.633 --> 00:34:56.973 perspective i understand it's an old game but very very playable i enjoyed the 00:34:56.973 --> 00:35:01.373 heck out of that and would totally uh defeat jeff with you guys again you. 00:35:01.373 --> 00:35:03.593 Were on nix os uh you were on nix os as well. 00:35:03.593 --> 00:35:08.053 Indeed yeah it was kind of great Because I just did Nix run Nix packages hash 00:35:08.053 --> 00:35:10.933 Lutris dash free to get started. I didn't even have to install anything really. 00:35:11.193 --> 00:35:15.033 So I tested a few different install scenarios with Lutris on Nix OS. 00:35:15.813 --> 00:35:19.193 And my experience was is the flat pack didn't work as well. 00:35:19.333 --> 00:35:22.413 I got errors during the installation of things. But if I use the Lutris dash 00:35:22.413 --> 00:35:25.473 free package in Nix packages, that worked just fine. 00:35:25.573 --> 00:35:29.073 So on Nix OS, my advice would be to use the built-in Nix package. 00:35:29.413 --> 00:35:33.093 On my Kubuntu slash Neon system here, which is a little bit older, 00:35:34.213 --> 00:35:39.913 uh the debbie and i installed first actually got the same errors that the flat packs got on nix os, 00:35:40.833 --> 00:35:43.553 and so i uninstalled the deb package on ubuntu and i 00:35:43.553 --> 00:35:46.293 actually went with the flat pack on ubuntu and that's worked great for me 00:35:46.293 --> 00:35:49.013 on ubuntu is the flat pack so depends you 00:35:49.013 --> 00:35:52.573 know your your success may vary there so there's those little weirdness but 00:35:52.573 --> 00:35:56.413 that's not anything to do with starcraft it's just the state of game launchers 00:35:56.413 --> 00:36:00.213 i suppose on different linux desktops i think the game holds up incredibly well 00:36:00.213 --> 00:36:05.853 we had all three of us playing flawlessly across different systems uh jeff what 00:36:05.853 --> 00:36:06.813 distro were you playing on. 00:36:06.813 --> 00:36:09.873 I was on uh arch windows. 00:36:09.873 --> 00:36:11.893 Yeah i. 00:36:11.893 --> 00:36:12.373 Was on arch. 00:36:12.373 --> 00:36:17.613 Arch okay there you go so it's it's wonderful because really wine's doing the 00:36:17.613 --> 00:36:18.813 bulk of the heavy lifting there, 00:36:19.393 --> 00:36:23.153 and so as long as you can get a good wine environment and you've got you can 00:36:23.153 --> 00:36:27.853 play games i was i was even doing on an intel arc system on here in the studio you. 00:36:27.853 --> 00:36:30.833 Know i believe i was watching some of the command line stuff go by and i believe 00:36:30.833 --> 00:36:33.933 uh even lutris was using proton on the back end to do this stuff. 00:36:33.933 --> 00:36:34.293 Yeah i. 00:36:34.293 --> 00:36:37.173 I'm not that familiar with how all that stuff works out but i think, 00:36:38.196 --> 00:36:42.336 this is we're so lucky can i just say that like 10 years ago this was just a 00:36:42.336 --> 00:36:46.756 dream to get gaming especially more modern games working but this is uh i feel 00:36:46.756 --> 00:36:51.156 like the golden age for linux we're just getting better and better okay. 00:36:51.156 --> 00:36:55.856 Just one final follow-up question here brent did you have a good enough time 00:36:55.856 --> 00:36:59.836 did we convince you to try the single player campaign. 00:36:59.836 --> 00:37:05.796 I will say immediately after we hung up like our four-hour phone call i was 00:37:05.796 --> 00:37:09.436 like i should go play campaign so i know what i'm doing and next time i could 00:37:09.436 --> 00:37:12.756 like you know resist the jeff let's say. 00:37:12.756 --> 00:37:16.176 I'll tell you one thing that would be useful is if you go through some of the 00:37:16.176 --> 00:37:20.896 initial tutorials they start very very basic very straightforward goals and 00:37:20.896 --> 00:37:23.496 one of the things they do through story is they introduce you to some of the 00:37:23.496 --> 00:37:27.556 key characters that have special abilities that you can then deploy in game 00:37:27.556 --> 00:37:30.176 later on and you kind of understand more about what they can do. 00:37:30.176 --> 00:37:35.456 Chris also offers a paid online class if you want to base your society around nukes. 00:37:35.656 --> 00:37:36.956 Yeah, definitely. 00:37:40.396 --> 00:37:44.016 ConfigCat.com slash unplugged. 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Chris, you've been teasing this thing, 00:39:04.196 --> 00:39:05.296 but you haven't really given details. 00:39:05.616 --> 00:39:09.636 We talked about the older version of this a while ago on the show. 00:39:09.836 --> 00:39:15.176 These little portable gaming handheld retro consoles, the R36S is what we talked 00:39:15.176 --> 00:39:16.436 about on the show forever ago. 00:39:16.656 --> 00:39:20.036 You can get them on Amazon or other places for around 60 bucks, 00:39:20.056 --> 00:39:24.656 and they come with, you know, thousands of ROMs. Well, in March of 2025, 00:39:24.836 --> 00:39:29.876 the R36 Max came out, a brand new updated version of it. 00:39:30.056 --> 00:39:32.796 And it's a little more expensive at the moment because it is brand new. 00:39:32.936 --> 00:39:37.456 But one of the things that it features is a larger one-to-one screen. 00:39:37.996 --> 00:39:40.796 It does run Linux. I couldn't tell you much about it. 00:39:40.976 --> 00:39:46.516 It has an ARM64 quad-core Cortex-A35 processor that goes up to 1.5 GHz. 00:39:46.776 --> 00:39:49.936 It's got a Mali-G31 MP2 GPU. 00:39:50.716 --> 00:39:53.876 And it has a little bit of built-in storage 64 or 00:39:53.876 --> 00:39:57.696 128 it depends on the one you get and then it has an expandable tf 00:39:57.696 --> 00:40:00.356 card slot too so you can you know you can load that 00:40:00.356 --> 00:40:03.456 up with as many roms as you want it's got a 4000 milliamp battery 00:40:03.456 --> 00:40:10.216 which is plenty six hours of gameplay lasts forever for me and it's um you know 00:40:10.216 --> 00:40:15.116 about the size of a game boy but with a lot more screen and wes i wanted to 00:40:15.116 --> 00:40:18.676 have you take a look at the screen because a lot of the games that you play 00:40:18.676 --> 00:40:21.196 on this are not actually formatted for that resolution. 00:40:21.436 --> 00:40:22.536 Ooh, it's crisp though. 00:40:22.656 --> 00:40:28.356 It is. So it's a 720 by 720, four inch screen. Yeah, Wes is playing a little Metroid there. 00:40:29.455 --> 00:40:31.975 It's slightly skewed perspective. Can you see that? 00:40:31.975 --> 00:40:35.595 Yes, I do. Yeah, the aspect ratios has been stretched slightly, 00:40:35.595 --> 00:40:39.255 but it's not realistically interfering with the gameplay. 00:40:39.415 --> 00:40:43.575 I haven't found it to be a problem. However, Purus might, and you can pop it 00:40:43.575 --> 00:40:44.595 into native resolutions. 00:40:44.915 --> 00:40:45.495 Oh, okay. 00:40:45.715 --> 00:40:48.235 Yeah, you can pop it down, and then you just have sort of a black bar. 00:40:48.395 --> 00:40:52.415 Okay, so how many different platforms? Am I on Super Nintendo here? 00:40:52.575 --> 00:40:53.895 You are on Game Boy Advance right now. 00:40:53.895 --> 00:40:55.395 Game Boy Advance, okay, I see. 00:40:56.235 --> 00:41:00.335 So I know it supports NES, SNES, Sega, the PSP, the Nintendo 64, 00:41:00.555 --> 00:41:04.395 the PS1, MAME machines, PCRK, and a lot of others. 00:41:04.655 --> 00:41:12.235 It's a lot of platforms. This particular one claims to come with 18,000 ROMs preloaded. 00:41:12.915 --> 00:41:19.615 Other numbers say 16,000. So it's, you know, it's suffice to say so many games 00:41:19.615 --> 00:41:22.635 that you have to come up with tricks to navigate all of them. 00:41:22.635 --> 00:41:25.795 And they have some folders of popular ones and you can mark favorites. 00:41:25.995 --> 00:41:29.035 But the biggest problem this thing has is that there's so many games. 00:41:29.095 --> 00:41:32.855 Because you just have to scroll through the giant list of games which you want to play some subset of. 00:41:32.935 --> 00:41:35.415 But that's also the upside. You get this thing out of the box. 00:41:35.575 --> 00:41:39.255 Mine was charged actually and everything's loaded and good to go. 00:41:39.475 --> 00:41:40.795 There's no account to create. 00:41:41.035 --> 00:41:43.875 There's no Wi-Fi. It does actually have Wi-Fi built in. I don't know what you 00:41:43.875 --> 00:41:46.695 would use it for. There's no Wi-Fi you need to sign on to. 00:41:47.095 --> 00:41:49.655 Nothing. You turn it on, you select your game and you play. 00:41:49.795 --> 00:41:54.115 That is pretty compelling and just like, Oh, I ordered fun game time from the 00:41:54.115 --> 00:41:56.275 internet, and then it just showed up and I can use it. 00:41:56.375 --> 00:42:00.635 Yeah, and this beautiful IPS screen makes these games look the best you've ever seen them. 00:42:00.995 --> 00:42:04.535 And you're not stretching them up to 1080p. It's 720 by 720, 00:42:04.735 --> 00:42:06.955 so they actually, they still look pretty good. 00:42:07.415 --> 00:42:10.735 The fact that you can also pop in storage and add more ROMs is really nice if 00:42:10.735 --> 00:42:12.175 you have, like, some custom hacked ROMs. 00:42:12.695 --> 00:42:15.815 It's USB-C. It's got two USB-C ports on it, actually. 00:42:15.835 --> 00:42:20.755 It's got a power port, and then it labels the other one as the OTG port. 00:42:20.755 --> 00:42:22.495 It's got a headphone jack on it. 00:42:23.195 --> 00:42:29.875 And then it's got your typical D-pad and thumbsticks with a YXBA and start and select. 00:42:31.102 --> 00:42:34.862 This is where the cons come in. The controls could feel a little better. 00:42:34.942 --> 00:42:35.802 I don't know if you noticed that. 00:42:35.942 --> 00:42:41.222 They're not like a high-end console controller. They're a little squishy. 00:42:42.082 --> 00:42:43.902 You're a little tight because it's a small device. 00:42:44.082 --> 00:42:48.182 Right. This is not what Uncle Jeff would want to use for competitive gameplay. 00:42:48.422 --> 00:42:52.602 Right. It took me five or ten minutes the first time I played this for games 00:42:52.602 --> 00:42:55.362 where you really got to move fast and you really have to be accurate. 00:42:55.642 --> 00:42:58.942 It took me five or ten minutes to get my thumb in the groove. But then I got there. 00:42:59.102 --> 00:43:03.062 Okay. Okay, I see it's also got, what, like four trigger-y type buttons on the 00:43:03.062 --> 00:43:04.382 back there? How are those? 00:43:04.522 --> 00:43:06.762 I don't use them much except for like some of the games that support, 00:43:07.322 --> 00:43:09.102 but you can use them for different things and triggering. 00:43:09.442 --> 00:43:12.002 They can hold them down with other combinations to trigger system events. 00:43:12.182 --> 00:43:15.122 They're good. I don't find that I mispress them. 00:43:15.422 --> 00:43:18.902 The new one has more ergonomic grip. So I've got the old one here in the studio, 00:43:19.082 --> 00:43:20.982 Wes, and you can see the old one's kind of got a flat back. 00:43:21.142 --> 00:43:24.322 Yeah, it's just like a rectangular construction primarily. 00:43:24.522 --> 00:43:26.082 Right, where this new one kind of has... 00:43:26.782 --> 00:43:31.642 Ergonomics may be a hand to shape, I suppose, depending a bit on your particular hands, but still. 00:43:31.882 --> 00:43:34.722 And the new one is definitely taller, too, because of that wider screen. 00:43:34.922 --> 00:43:38.962 So the new ones, I actually think, having played them both quite a bit, 00:43:39.922 --> 00:43:44.102 the older one, you know, for $30, if you could pick it up, is still kind of the way to go. 00:43:45.202 --> 00:43:47.382 The keys might be a little nicer on the older one. 00:43:48.542 --> 00:43:52.242 And it still has a lot of games. If you really want the best screen, 00:43:52.362 --> 00:43:54.222 though, you've got to get the R36X. 00:43:54.322 --> 00:43:58.102 It really is something. So the D-pad's okay, they're not great. 00:43:59.462 --> 00:44:02.522 The analog sticks are okay, they're not great. They're definitely serviceable. 00:44:04.177 --> 00:44:06.757 They're just sort of what you get for this class of device, right? 00:44:07.017 --> 00:44:11.157 And there is this silly soccer ball on here that doesn't do anything and that kind of stuff. 00:44:11.817 --> 00:44:16.257 But when you bring it all together with the 720 by 720 one by one aspect ratio 00:44:16.257 --> 00:44:20.437 screen that just really pops, the fact that you power it on and you're playing 00:44:20.437 --> 00:44:22.677 immediately, like I have it suspended right now. 00:44:22.997 --> 00:44:26.537 I press one button and the game immediately fires up. 00:44:26.837 --> 00:44:30.997 It does seem perfect for just taking it on the plane, carrying it in your bag 00:44:30.997 --> 00:44:33.437 for a little downtime here and there while you're waiting for whatever. 00:44:33.437 --> 00:44:37.617 I keep it on the couch. And, you know, if I'm waiting for the wife or something 00:44:37.617 --> 00:44:39.857 before we watch, I just pull it and start playing for five minutes. 00:44:39.957 --> 00:44:41.477 And I hit the pause button and it goes back to sleep. 00:44:41.877 --> 00:44:44.257 I've been playing this one level of Metroid for like three days. 00:44:45.737 --> 00:44:47.817 It's nice. It's fun. 00:44:47.917 --> 00:44:51.757 Chris, I'm wondering how the old one held up. You've had it, what, for a year now? 00:44:52.037 --> 00:44:55.037 And have been playing it pretty consistently from what I can tell when I visit. 00:44:55.237 --> 00:44:57.257 How did it hold up from a hardware perspective? 00:44:57.757 --> 00:45:01.477 Well, about three months ago, I let it go really dead, apparently, 00:45:01.717 --> 00:45:03.617 and I cannot get it to hold a charge anymore. 00:45:04.537 --> 00:45:07.277 And it won't work if you take out the battery and plug it in directly. 00:45:08.077 --> 00:45:11.997 So I found a replacement battery on Amazon for like $6, and it's going to be 00:45:11.997 --> 00:45:16.357 here today. So my hope is I can plug a new lithium battery into that thing, 00:45:16.477 --> 00:45:18.917 and then it fires up, and then I've got both of them. 00:45:19.737 --> 00:45:23.017 And then the wife and I can both play. But we'll see. Otherwise, 00:45:23.037 --> 00:45:25.557 it's been great, and I would still give it a recommend. 00:45:25.557 --> 00:45:29.837 If you're really you know if you really like nice graphics then i would say go for the, 00:45:30.397 --> 00:45:35.037 r36 max because it really does pop but that still really holds up um and then 00:45:35.037 --> 00:45:40.397 you know you cannot get away from the fact that it's just it's it's kind of 00:45:40.397 --> 00:45:43.517 a conversation starter it's adorable out of the box and you can just start playing 00:45:43.517 --> 00:45:45.757 you can hand it to anybody i handed it to the wife, 00:45:46.257 --> 00:45:48.997 she went through the games picked the one she wants spent 10 00:45:48.997 --> 00:45:52.677 minutes playing a game it's really easy to use and 00:45:52.677 --> 00:45:55.577 again you could like say for a road trip 00:45:55.577 --> 00:45:58.277 buy a couple of these take them out of the box hand them to 00:45:58.277 --> 00:46:01.077 the kiddos or whoever they get in the car they're ready to go they don't 00:46:01.077 --> 00:46:03.937 need a connection and they'll play for a six hour drive and when 00:46:03.937 --> 00:46:07.377 they need topped off you just plug them into usbc you really 00:46:07.377 --> 00:46:10.257 can't beat it so the r36 x max right now 00:46:10.257 --> 00:46:13.677 it'll come down but right now because it's brand new is 99 but 00:46:13.677 --> 00:46:17.277 you can find the older version which i 00:46:17.277 --> 00:46:20.477 still think is pretty great for like around 30 bucks where you look for it maybe 00:46:20.477 --> 00:46:24.297 on ebay to 60 bucks on amazon and again they come with all the roms that can't 00:46:24.297 --> 00:46:28.857 last forever that's probably gonna eventually get shut down so that's why i 00:46:28.857 --> 00:46:31.837 mentioned it from time to time because it's such a great deal and it's nice 00:46:31.837 --> 00:46:34.517 to have in one and when linux fest comes around i'll have it here in the studio 00:46:34.517 --> 00:46:35.837 so people can check it out. 00:46:37.257 --> 00:46:40.537 Well thank you everyone for sending boosts in this week it's a kind of strange 00:46:40.537 --> 00:46:45.457 here i think he was trying to pay us off our baller booster this week is producer jeff, 00:46:50.099 --> 00:46:53.939 Now, there's many boosts here. The first one I see is 100 sats for a test. 00:46:54.059 --> 00:46:56.679 You sent in a couple boosts, but the second one is the baller. 00:46:56.799 --> 00:46:58.279 It says, to the headset fund. 00:46:58.539 --> 00:46:58.839 Hey! 00:46:58.879 --> 00:47:00.379 Let's go to gaming. 00:47:01.339 --> 00:47:05.759 Yeah, all right. So we have Zonotic here, Urban Terror, Tux Cart, Velorin. 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.899 I don't know about that one. It's got the Starcrafts in there, 00:47:08.979 --> 00:47:12.379 of course, for the proprietary. Left 4 Dead is a great one. Payday. 00:47:12.579 --> 00:47:14.279 Oh, Castle Crashers. Yeah, that's fun. 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:15.219 Broforce is fun. 00:47:15.419 --> 00:47:19.459 Broforce. Yeah, Jeff and I played Broforce when I was there last. Very, very good. 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.459 Thanks for the sats for the headset fund, PJ. Appreciate it. 00:47:25.499 --> 00:47:27.759 Frigolet comes in with 50,000 sats. 00:47:30.259 --> 00:47:35.619 And just says headphones. We know what to do with that. Thank you very much. 00:47:36.359 --> 00:47:39.599 The Muso comes in with 50,000 sats. 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.859 Unplugged headset fund is go. 00:47:45.659 --> 00:47:48.839 All right. Thank you, Muso. Nice to hear from you, too. 00:47:49.379 --> 00:47:55.059 We have another boost here from, not sure, not sure who that is, 30,000 Satoshis. 00:47:56.959 --> 00:48:01.379 And this is another headset boost, says new headset boost. Who doesn't love new gear? 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.639 Yeah, hopefully we love them. One arrived, that one that I ordered, 00:48:05.799 --> 00:48:08.799 and I'm waiting for the cable, which all these things take a lot of time. 00:48:08.799 --> 00:48:12.219 So I'm thinking this is the week, Monday or Tuesday, I have to finish all the ordering. 00:48:13.739 --> 00:48:19.839 The cable requires signature. and while we were recording yesterday the StarCraft 00:48:19.839 --> 00:48:22.559 stuff, they knocked on the door here at the studio and I didn't hear it. 00:48:23.479 --> 00:48:26.259 So, I'll have to catch it next time but appreciate that. 00:48:27.859 --> 00:48:32.099 WH-2050 comes in with 20,250 SATs. 00:48:34.116 --> 00:48:37.616 Plus one for a Linux gaming episode, I'd like to better understand why anti-cheat 00:48:37.616 --> 00:48:38.856 doesn't play well with Linux. 00:48:39.136 --> 00:48:42.536 I don't play many games that use the tech, but I know several people that would 00:48:42.536 --> 00:48:45.816 switch to full-time Linux if they could play things like League of Legends. 00:48:46.116 --> 00:48:50.396 So we looked into this WH, and as you probably are somewhat aware, 00:48:50.616 --> 00:48:55.516 the primary problem comes down to these games implement anti-cheat at the Windows kernel level. 00:48:55.936 --> 00:49:01.216 And they are just simply, they're simply not a one-to-one comparable offered on the Linux side. 00:49:01.216 --> 00:49:04.356 Then you add to the sort of 00:49:04.356 --> 00:49:07.556 complexity or what i'm trying to say is proton 00:49:07.556 --> 00:49:10.556 could be used as a way to kind of suss out 00:49:10.556 --> 00:49:13.316 api calls that games are making and you 00:49:13.316 --> 00:49:16.296 could even devise a fork 00:49:16.296 --> 00:49:21.316 of proton that makes cheating even more possible and so i think some of the 00:49:21.316 --> 00:49:24.996 game developers are a little leery of that as well so you have technical implementations 00:49:24.996 --> 00:49:28.116 aren't available in the linux kernel that we're probably never going to add 00:49:28.116 --> 00:49:33.736 and these are essentially rootkits on windows so let's be clear about that yeah there's also. 00:49:33.736 --> 00:49:37.436 The like human sort of cultural problem beyond the technical problem in that 00:49:37.436 --> 00:49:39.896 sense i would argue on the windows side but here we are. 00:49:39.896 --> 00:49:43.476 And then often when there's cheating at scale that's done on linux so a lot 00:49:43.476 --> 00:49:46.316 of these developers are lazy when it comes to the stuff and they just say well 00:49:46.316 --> 00:49:48.896 we won't allow linux because then we don't have to worry about this problem 00:49:48.896 --> 00:49:55.336 which is a real crap cheap kind of way to go but it's just the way it is now 00:49:55.336 --> 00:49:57.036 there are some workarounds being created. 00:49:58.136 --> 00:50:02.836 EAC, for example, offers Linux builds, but developers have to enable them in their game. 00:50:03.176 --> 00:50:07.156 There are some user space anti-cheat solutions where you could actually use 00:50:07.156 --> 00:50:12.716 SE Linux and AppArmor, but obviously if you have root on the box, 00:50:12.756 --> 00:50:16.456 you could disable that stuff, so it doesn't really solve it for the game developer. 00:50:17.256 --> 00:50:21.916 Then there is the fact that there's a lack of widespread secure boot adoption, 00:50:21.916 --> 00:50:26.836 so it makes it harder for anti-cheat software to verify that the system hasn't 00:50:26.836 --> 00:50:29.796 been modified in some way, like something at the kernel level. 00:50:30.036 --> 00:50:35.036 And so on Windows, they can verify that the kernel they've rootkitted essentially 00:50:35.036 --> 00:50:36.736 is the kernel that is in use. 00:50:37.216 --> 00:50:41.656 They don't necessarily have that mechanism on Linux unless you're actively using Secure Boot. 00:50:42.156 --> 00:50:44.856 And would you really want to have to use Secure Boot just so that way you could 00:50:44.856 --> 00:50:47.716 play a proprietary game that uses anti-cheat rootkits? 00:50:48.536 --> 00:50:55.416 So that's the TLDR essentially of it good question and on topic so thank you wh20 appreciate it. 00:50:55.416 --> 00:50:58.516 Tr selby boosts in with 8 000 cents, 00:51:00.942 --> 00:51:06.442 Where the rubber meets the road. Use towards getting the Brent Bus new rubber 00:51:06.442 --> 00:51:08.502 boots so you can roll on home. 00:51:08.622 --> 00:51:09.282 Oh, thank you. 00:51:09.542 --> 00:51:14.842 Thank you. Yeah, that old rusty can does need some love, which we will be giving it next month. 00:51:15.242 --> 00:51:17.842 And thank you. Really super appreciate the support. 00:51:18.222 --> 00:51:21.282 Yeah, that's definitely going to need new boots. Hey, look at this. 00:51:21.382 --> 00:51:22.722 A Mr. West Payne boosted in. 00:51:22.902 --> 00:51:23.382 Oh, me? 00:51:23.682 --> 00:51:25.542 3,222 sats. 00:51:27.722 --> 00:51:33.802 Saying hi to PJ. I love it. Good. Good. KyloDog came in with 2,001 sats. 00:51:35.162 --> 00:51:39.122 I had thought while listening the other day, it would be funny to have a sound 00:51:39.122 --> 00:51:42.822 effect to boost values right at or just above the 2,000-sat cutoff, 00:51:43.042 --> 00:51:45.422 like doing the bare minimum or something like that. 00:51:45.602 --> 00:51:49.642 We kind of have like a basic pew-pew that we use from time to time for like 00:51:49.642 --> 00:51:54.022 the 2,000-sat, but I don't use it that often. I just like playing around. 00:51:55.302 --> 00:52:00.382 Soli86 boosts in with 2,000 sats. regarding 00:52:00.382 --> 00:52:05.862 the sleep mode with framework laptops i found that my framework doesn't sleep 00:52:05.862 --> 00:52:10.882 when an application is stopping hibernate in plasma sure my other issue may 00:52:10.882 --> 00:52:15.682 be closing the lid while plugged into a dock and then pulling the usbc cable 00:52:15.682 --> 00:52:20.302 ah oh confused with a hardware disappearing and what state to be in i. 00:52:20.302 --> 00:52:23.402 Could see myself doing that closing the lid and then pulling the cable as i 00:52:23.402 --> 00:52:27.682 walk away brent do you think it could be that an application you have is telling plasma don't sleep. 00:52:27.682 --> 00:52:31.042 Considering the number of applications you guys know i always have open i would 00:52:31.042 --> 00:52:36.502 say probably yes but uh the real trick is figuring out which one i don't know 00:52:36.502 --> 00:52:41.122 where to start there so happy to happy to look into it if you have any tips and tricks dear. 00:52:41.122 --> 00:52:44.222 Listeners i think we uh you know we write a little script it kills processes 00:52:44.222 --> 00:52:49.522 at random and then it just records that so then you can you know yeah trace it back from there that. 00:52:49.522 --> 00:52:50.462 Seems completely reasonable. 00:52:50.462 --> 00:52:57.062 Make sure to. 00:52:57.062 --> 00:53:00.922 Vistro's stew boosted in 5,555 sets. 00:53:02.522 --> 00:53:08.262 In regards to signing PDFs, I've had success with Journal++ for many years. 00:53:08.622 --> 00:53:10.902 Just keeping around an image of your signature. 00:53:11.442 --> 00:53:16.722 But these days I use Firefox because its built-in PDF reader now supports forms and images. 00:53:18.202 --> 00:53:20.242 I did not know that. You got me with that. Yeah. 00:53:20.542 --> 00:53:24.822 I did use Journal for a long time, but this is an awesome hack. Thank you. 00:53:25.422 --> 00:53:31.162 Yeah, it is. thank you for the tip Coffee Bacon Linux is here with 5,000 sats, 00:53:32.742 --> 00:53:38.962 new gear day enjoy loving the show keep up the great work he says he also meant 00:53:38.962 --> 00:53:42.842 to send a second sat boost because he wanted to send a little more for the headsets. 00:53:42.842 --> 00:53:43.762 Little top up boost. 00:53:43.762 --> 00:53:44.262 Thank you. 00:53:44.962 --> 00:53:50.042 True Grits boosts in with 17,000 and 10 sats, 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.539 Oh, it's a little announcement. True Grits is officially coming to LinuxFest Northwest. 00:53:58.099 --> 00:54:02.919 Ah, but Grits does have a question mainly for you, Brent. 00:54:03.139 --> 00:54:03.519 Uh-oh. 00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:07.899 I think I'm going to do some car camping if possible. Do I need permission from 00:54:07.899 --> 00:54:09.859 the college to do so? Any tips? 00:54:11.479 --> 00:54:15.959 Are you asking because I've specifically done this exact thing at my first LinuxFest 00:54:15.959 --> 00:54:23.079 Northwest and did not ask for permission because I was actually in a car, was SUV at the time, 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:27.799 although Chris did catch me brushing my teeth, so I didn't go completely undiscovered. 00:54:27.899 --> 00:54:29.679 But I think it's pretty okay. 00:54:29.819 --> 00:54:32.779 I would say if you're riding a rig like Lady Joops, like we do, 00:54:33.539 --> 00:54:36.019 maybe you need permission because it takes up like, how many, 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.739 10 parking spaces, something like that. 00:54:38.139 --> 00:54:41.099 But otherwise, if it's just a small camping rig, I think you're fine. 00:54:41.699 --> 00:54:45.079 Yeah, that would be my approach, is if it's small and discreet, 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.859 you're better off just probably not bringing it 00:54:47.859 --> 00:54:50.639 up and don't ask but if it's a if it's a large you probably 00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.699 shouldn't do it or you need to get permission that's probably the yeah 00:54:53.699 --> 00:54:56.959 that's probably the way to go forward humor come thank you great boost can't 00:54:56.959 --> 00:55:00.299 wait to see you there it's gonna be awesome forward humor comes in with a row 00:55:00.299 --> 00:55:05.639 of ducks libra office draw has great pdf editor built in just open your pdf 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.319 in the libra draw and you can insert a png image of your signature in a few 00:55:09.319 --> 00:55:11.979 seconds export is pdf and you're done. 00:55:11.979 --> 00:55:13.879 Hey that could be a pretty easy one. 00:55:13.879 --> 00:55:16.619 I started doing this recently and i agree it's 00:55:16.619 --> 00:55:19.539 great um i realized when we asked the signing pdf 00:55:19.539 --> 00:55:23.219 question there's a whole bunch of different meanings to that one is which we're 00:55:23.219 --> 00:55:26.759 seeing here is just having a photo of your signature they just plop on a bunch 00:55:26.759 --> 00:55:30.679 of documents which i think is the simplest one but digitally signing is a whole 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.579 other ball game so uh which i haven't figured out yet so i would love some tips 00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:37.479 on how to do it you know the right way. 00:55:37.479 --> 00:55:41.739 Sat stacker seven moose in with 10 000 sats, 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:49.239 plus one here for the idea of making all those great ai songs available for streaming. 00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:50.299 There's some. 00:55:50.299 --> 00:55:52.499 Real gems in there and i would love to browse through. 00:55:52.499 --> 00:55:55.899 Yeah the members usually we kick off the member stream with a custom song some 00:55:55.899 --> 00:55:59.879 of them are hits some of them not so much but we'll have more on that soon i think. 00:55:59.879 --> 00:56:01.879 And just a general thanks for the great work. 00:56:01.879 --> 00:56:04.179 Well thank you nice to hear from you sat stacker. 00:56:04.179 --> 00:56:12.059 Next high five connoisseur sent in a total of 10,864 sats across two booths 00:56:12.059 --> 00:56:16.579 first one here here's some treasure for the headsets for your lovely gents. 00:56:16.579 --> 00:56:17.419 Thank you another. 00:56:17.419 --> 00:56:21.059 Shout out to the bootleg version of the show it is the best way to listen for 00:56:21.059 --> 00:56:22.959 sure join that jupiter party. 00:56:22.959 --> 00:56:28.019 I do think we could probably plug the bootleg a little more there is a lot of 00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:31.739 show in there it's clocking at an hour 42 right now yeah someone. 00:56:31.739 --> 00:56:33.999 Has a habit of overproducing the. 00:56:33.999 --> 00:56:41.739 Bootleg yeah anonymous sent us some stats to test out their setup thank you 00:56:41.739 --> 00:56:45.239 and tomato came in with 13 337 stats, 00:56:47.269 --> 00:56:50.249 Some sats towards a pair of lead headsets for Wes and Brent. 00:56:50.509 --> 00:56:56.269 And our last boost from Bronze Wing with a row of ducks. Headphones and gaming. 00:56:56.649 --> 00:56:58.029 Yes! Great. 00:56:58.609 --> 00:57:00.029 We're well in progress on both there. 00:57:00.069 --> 00:57:03.229 Yeah. I would love to know how the gaming episode was received, too. 00:57:03.349 --> 00:57:09.529 If you're looking for a reason to boost us, 600 episodes, we've done two, three of them ever. 00:57:10.409 --> 00:57:13.389 And we really don't know. But we'd love to hear your feedback on that. 00:57:13.969 --> 00:57:17.549 It's just something maybe we would do in another 100 episodes if you liked it. I don't know. 00:57:19.029 --> 00:57:22.069 In the back of my mind, I thought, if we can get StarCraft working for us, 00:57:22.169 --> 00:57:26.789 maybe we could do like a game session at Linux Fest or something like that with StarCraft. We'll see. 00:57:26.969 --> 00:57:29.229 Careful what you suggest because you're going to start something here. 00:57:29.449 --> 00:57:32.209 I know. I know. Well, maybe that's my intention. 00:57:32.389 --> 00:57:33.329 Get your ghosts ready. 00:57:33.589 --> 00:57:36.289 Thank you, everybody who boosted below the 2000sat cutoff too. 00:57:36.409 --> 00:57:40.289 We just read above 2000sats for time, but we have all of your boosts and keep them in the dock. 00:57:40.629 --> 00:57:43.929 And also a big shout out to all of you who stream those sats as you listened, 00:57:43.929 --> 00:57:48.329 which you can do with those podcasting 2.0 apps, 33 of you did so, 00:57:48.509 --> 00:57:54.389 and you collectively stacked 46,271 sats. 00:57:54.789 --> 00:58:02.909 When you combine that with our boosters, this episode, 609, stacked 358,561 sats. 00:58:09.341 --> 00:58:11.941 If you want to get on the fun, maybe support the Headset Fund. 00:58:12.401 --> 00:58:14.841 You can get started with something like Fountain FM. 00:58:15.101 --> 00:58:18.681 Strikes a great way in over 110 countries to get sats. Solid company too. 00:58:18.901 --> 00:58:22.361 And of course, River is one of our partners, jupiterbroadcasting.com slash river. 00:58:22.841 --> 00:58:26.461 You get those sats in a podcasting 2.0 app, and then you begin boosting the 00:58:26.461 --> 00:58:27.881 show and support us directly. 00:58:28.281 --> 00:58:32.181 And of course, tip of the hat to our members who also support the show with 00:58:32.181 --> 00:58:35.881 their Fiat Fund coupons on automatic mode every single month, 00:58:36.541 --> 00:58:40.061 unplugged.com slash membership, or for the whole network, jupiter.party. 00:58:40.181 --> 00:58:44.481 Thank you, everybody, who makes this crazy independent podcast possible about 00:58:44.481 --> 00:58:46.621 a topic that only us geeks could love. 00:58:48.001 --> 00:58:54.681 Well, we got too many picks, so let's start with Brent's. I'm going to say it's pronounced Kua. 00:58:55.261 --> 00:58:57.121 It's Kua. What do you think? Do I get it? 00:58:57.161 --> 00:59:00.101 I was going to say Kua, but I like yours a little smoother. 00:59:00.361 --> 00:59:02.021 I kind of like yours. So what'd you find? 00:59:02.501 --> 00:59:06.101 I found this little app just like minutes after the show last week, 00:59:06.101 --> 00:59:10.121 and I've been looking for, I've got to say, probably like a year and a half, 00:59:10.621 --> 00:59:13.561 for a very simple screen recording app. 00:59:13.741 --> 00:59:20.061 I used to use Peak quite a bit to, as you guys know, record a bunch of bugs. 00:59:20.061 --> 00:59:24.121 I find when doing bug reports and issues on GitHub, it's really helpful to even 00:59:24.121 --> 00:59:27.161 just have a screen cap of sometimes the behavior that you're seeing. 00:59:27.541 --> 00:59:30.541 It's a really great way to communicate to the developers what's going on. 00:59:31.221 --> 00:59:35.561 And it turned out in this transition to Wayland, And a lot of those tools just 00:59:35.561 --> 00:59:36.621 weren't compatible anymore. 00:59:37.021 --> 00:59:41.181 And Peak is one that just they decided they weren't going to make it anymore. 00:59:41.741 --> 00:59:45.721 And it just kind of went discontinued and wasn't really useful on modern Linux 00:59:45.721 --> 00:59:48.601 desktops. And I have been looking ever since. 00:59:48.821 --> 00:59:52.461 I know the built-in one on Plasma has been adding this feature, 00:59:52.561 --> 00:59:55.421 but I don't love how it works. And it's a little, I don't know, not my thing. 00:59:55.921 --> 00:59:59.261 You answered my question, I was going to say. You got to give Spectacle at least, 00:59:59.421 --> 01:00:00.681 you know, a little dimension. 01:00:00.981 --> 01:00:04.881 Yeah, Spectacle has added this feature recently. and I've been trying to use 01:00:04.881 --> 01:00:09.081 it, but it seems I just trip over the feature sets. 01:00:09.621 --> 01:00:13.201 Like it, I don't know, it doesn't work for my brain. It's not doing it for me. 01:00:13.221 --> 01:00:16.061 Although I use Spectacle constantly every single day. 01:00:16.321 --> 01:00:22.341 But KUHA has been really doing it for me. It's nice and simple and elegant and just works. 01:00:22.601 --> 01:00:28.641 So I would say if you like that kind of thing, it's great. It is also licensed GPL v3. 01:00:29.101 --> 01:00:32.061 And I think it's 96% written in Rust. 01:00:35.109 --> 01:00:39.149 Yeah, we'll have a link to it, K-O-O-H-A, and that'll be in the show notes. 01:00:39.989 --> 01:00:44.769 Yeah, nice find. And then, Wes, you found a doozy, too, so we had to do two picks this week. 01:00:45.229 --> 01:00:51.209 You came across VTT Summarizer, which summarizes VTT files, which, 01:00:51.329 --> 01:00:54.429 if you don't know, and I'm sure most of you probably wouldn't be unless you're 01:00:54.429 --> 01:00:56.589 a podcaster, those are transcript files. 01:00:56.789 --> 01:00:59.769 Yeah, like SRTs or subtitle files, basically. 01:00:59.929 --> 01:01:04.929 Yeah, it could be a subtitle for a movie, too, right? and we use them to all 01:01:04.929 --> 01:01:09.529 of our episodes since 600 have had transcription and you found a tool this vtt 01:01:09.529 --> 01:01:16.369 summarizer that uses open source llms to essentially go through this and summarize 01:01:16.369 --> 01:01:18.329 it could also do with meeting notes tell me about this thing. 01:01:18.329 --> 01:01:21.449 Uh yeah i haven't actually had a chance to try it yet. 01:01:21.449 --> 01:01:24.889 It also looks kind of new like i don't even see a license right on there yet. 01:01:24.889 --> 01:01:31.109 It's just basically like a python file that hooks into um all the you know apis 01:01:31.109 --> 01:01:33.949 we have around open source LLM. So here's how it reads. 01:01:34.129 --> 01:01:39.129 This script extracts structured information from VTT files, such as Zoom meeting 01:01:39.129 --> 01:01:43.669 transcripts or closed captions, and converts it into JSON and Markdown formats. 01:01:44.269 --> 01:01:47.369 This includes an overview, participants, main topics, key points, 01:01:47.489 --> 01:01:49.249 decisions, and action items. 01:01:49.489 --> 01:01:53.109 It uses open source LLMs to handle the data extraction and summarization, 01:01:53.629 --> 01:01:56.769 ensuring everything can be run locally without the need to share with third parties. 01:01:56.969 --> 01:02:02.049 But presumably also, if you wanted to, you could plug in a third-party QPI provider as well. 01:02:03.249 --> 01:02:06.149 Very nice. Link to that in the show notes. Also, shout out to Llama4, 01:02:06.189 --> 01:02:09.009 which came out today. That's exciting. We'll be digging into that at some point in the future. 01:02:09.909 --> 01:02:13.989 There's a lot going on. And remember, LinuxFest is just around the corner, 1918 days. 01:02:14.569 --> 01:02:18.649 And I'd love it if you participated in that poll. And just let us know if you'd 01:02:18.649 --> 01:02:20.769 be likely to tune in for a bit during a Saturday stream. 01:02:21.469 --> 01:02:24.749 And if you would, boost it and tell me, what would you want to hear from that stream? 01:02:25.169 --> 01:02:29.489 I've got a handful of ideas, But we have about 20-ish days, so it's a great 01:02:29.489 --> 01:02:31.669 opportunity to help influence that coverage as well. 01:02:31.809 --> 01:02:34.509 And we are trying to raise funds for that headset. 01:02:34.689 --> 01:02:36.969 So there's several things you could boost in and help support the show. 01:02:41.369 --> 01:02:47.609 Now you can make it a Tuesday on a Sunday by joining us at jblive.tv or jblive.fm 01:02:47.609 --> 01:02:49.469 in whatever audio player you like. 01:02:50.329 --> 01:02:54.049 We start at around 9.30 a.m., 10 a.m. 01:02:54.149 --> 01:02:58.049 Pacific. but we have it at jupiterbroadcasting.com slash calendar in your time 01:02:58.049 --> 01:03:03.929 and we also mark it pending and go live in podcasting 2.0 app so you can just tune in right there, 01:03:04.469 --> 01:03:07.589 links to everything we talked about today how to contact us, 01:03:07.789 --> 01:03:10.109 our mumble, our matrix info our membership, all of that, 01:03:11.049 --> 01:03:15.869 linuxunplugged.com and this is linuxunplugged.com slash 609 thanks so much for 01:03:15.869 --> 01:03:20.809 joining us on this week's episode of the Unplugged program we'll see you next Tuesday as in Sunday.
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