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The Nightly Wobble

Sep 14, 2025
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Our first look at KDE Linux, then Chris shares the latest on Hyprvibe, while Wes braves his first install.

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WEBVTT 00:00:11.447 --> 00:00:16.067 Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. 00:00:16.227 --> 00:00:16.867 My name is Wes. 00:00:17.107 --> 00:00:17.987 And my name is Brent. 00:00:18.507 --> 00:00:22.527 Hey, gentlemen, coming up on the show today, we've been giving KDE Linux a spin, 00:00:22.547 --> 00:00:24.887 and we'll give you our first impressions in just a little bit. 00:00:25.267 --> 00:00:28.807 Plus, I just made a bunch of big updates to my Hypervibe distro. 00:00:28.927 --> 00:00:33.287 Yeah, it's still a thing. And I'm going to see if we can get Wes to get it installed 00:00:33.287 --> 00:00:35.647 and up and running live during the show. 00:00:35.967 --> 00:00:39.787 In fact, during the second half of the show, he doesn't even have the whole 00:00:39.787 --> 00:00:45.147 show. Then we'll round it out with some great shout-outs, some picks, and a lot more. 00:00:45.267 --> 00:00:49.167 So before we go any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings to that virtual 00:00:49.167 --> 00:00:50.747 lug. Hello, Mumble Room. Welcome in. 00:00:50.747 --> 00:00:52.487 Hello, Brent. 00:00:53.387 --> 00:00:56.607 We got a real small on-air. And then look at that big old quiet listening up 00:00:56.607 --> 00:00:58.247 there. It's glistening with the quiet listening. 00:00:58.907 --> 00:01:01.587 That's nice. Thank you, everybody, for joining us there and in the Matrix chat 00:01:01.587 --> 00:01:02.547 and making it a live vibe. 00:01:03.067 --> 00:01:10.127 And a big shout-out to our friends at Defined Networking. Head over to defined.net slash unplugged. 00:01:10.187 --> 00:01:17.507 Go check out Managed Nebula, a decentralized VPN built on the amazing open source Nebula platform. 00:01:17.767 --> 00:01:21.607 It's a project we love. We've been following it for years, and it is so exciting 00:01:21.607 --> 00:01:25.087 to see the Managed Nebula product get to something that you can recommend to 00:01:25.087 --> 00:01:26.407 businesses, friends, and family. 00:01:26.947 --> 00:01:32.047 See, Nebula is really optimized for speed, simplicity, and industry-leading security. 00:01:32.587 --> 00:01:35.887 And Nebula has a decentralized design that you can completely self-host or you 00:01:35.887 --> 00:01:36.887 can use their managed product. 00:01:37.107 --> 00:01:40.767 So for your home lab or for a global enterprise, Nebula is ready to go and is 00:01:40.767 --> 00:01:44.887 already used in some really amazing production instances. 00:01:45.067 --> 00:01:48.607 I'm talking, let's just say there's Nebula going down the road out there. 00:01:49.827 --> 00:01:51.827 I set up my first lighthouse this weekend. 00:01:51.967 --> 00:01:53.547 Is that right? Good job. 00:01:53.787 --> 00:01:56.847 Thank you. Yeah, that's where I'm starting. I'm going to do a lighthouse and a mobile device. 00:01:57.607 --> 00:02:01.587 I did kind of cheat and I used Nebula Manager, but it was really nice. 00:02:01.587 --> 00:02:03.527 Nebula, I was, it's great actually. 00:02:03.647 --> 00:02:07.227 Nebula Manager is great because one of the things it did for me is it created 00:02:07.227 --> 00:02:10.027 a template config file that's just about ready to go. 00:02:10.147 --> 00:02:13.387 And so then I just went in there, bop, bop, bop through it in like two minutes max. 00:02:13.987 --> 00:02:17.167 And I had a lighthouse. I was like, oh, that was nothing. 00:02:17.487 --> 00:02:21.167 So I feel like the process is beginning. And then I think the next thing I'm 00:02:21.167 --> 00:02:25.127 going to set up just because this is how I roll is I think maybe there's better ways to do it. 00:02:25.347 --> 00:02:28.507 I'm open to input, but I think I'm going to set up a DNS server on the same 00:02:28.507 --> 00:02:29.607 box. That's my lighthouse. 00:02:30.067 --> 00:02:34.187 I have it do a name resolution for both Nebula and external stuff. 00:02:34.747 --> 00:02:39.627 What appeals to me is like I can build at it like this for my home lab and understand 00:02:39.627 --> 00:02:42.807 it and understand how it works. And I get access to everything. 00:02:42.987 --> 00:02:46.807 Right. But then for JB or friends or family or whatever it might be, 00:02:46.967 --> 00:02:48.667 the managed product is available for me. 00:02:49.504 --> 00:02:53.444 That I really like. I can go fully self-hosted with everything and it's not 00:02:53.444 --> 00:02:55.744 a compromise or I have the managed product. 00:02:55.924 --> 00:02:58.284 And that's something you might want to check out and just get started with. 00:02:58.364 --> 00:03:02.264 If you go to define.net slash unplugged, you get it 30 days for free on 100 00:03:02.264 --> 00:03:04.104 devices and you support the show. 00:03:04.224 --> 00:03:06.764 It's define.net slash unplugged. 00:03:07.204 --> 00:03:10.604 Nothing else offers Nebula's level of resilience, speed. 00:03:11.364 --> 00:03:14.924 It's really great. And I now have my first lighthouse. 00:03:15.244 --> 00:03:17.884 It's a moment, boys. I felt really proud. And you can do it, 00:03:17.884 --> 00:03:18.884 too. You can host your own. 00:03:19.004 --> 00:03:23.144 You can use there's a public one out there or get started with 100 hosts absolutely 00:03:23.144 --> 00:03:25.344 free with a managed product. Just no credit card required either. 00:03:25.604 --> 00:03:28.124 It's define.net slash unplugged. 00:03:30.644 --> 00:03:34.124 Well, Texas Linux Fest, October 3rd through the 4th at the Commons Conference 00:03:34.124 --> 00:03:39.244 Center in Austin, Texas, is just 18 days away, probably about 10 or so days 00:03:39.244 --> 00:03:41.064 until Brent needs to hit the road from right now. 00:03:41.184 --> 00:03:42.224 Maybe eight or five. 00:03:42.884 --> 00:03:45.944 I'm feeling more like seven, so I've got to pack. 00:03:46.104 --> 00:03:48.644 Well, you've got to think about it this way. If you've got seven or eight days 00:03:48.644 --> 00:03:52.364 to leave, then you've got four or five days to fix whatever you need to fix 00:03:52.364 --> 00:03:53.164 before you can hit the road. 00:03:53.784 --> 00:03:56.724 I still have a leaking roof, so I've got to get it going on that. 00:03:57.364 --> 00:04:00.824 We have a big update on how we're doing coming up in the show later on. 00:04:00.944 --> 00:04:04.344 We've been stacking support with the audience's help for Texas Linux Fest. 00:04:04.464 --> 00:04:05.284 It's been really awesome. 00:04:06.124 --> 00:04:10.704 And I think with the incredible support we've seen from the audience and the 00:04:10.704 --> 00:04:15.124 fact that we just ticked over our 12th anniversary, I think we should officially 00:04:15.124 --> 00:04:18.844 hold the unplugged birthday party at Texas Linux Fest. 00:04:18.984 --> 00:04:23.764 So we have a meetup on the books. If you go to meetup.com slash Jupyter Broadcasting, 00:04:23.984 --> 00:04:30.284 we have an Austin unplugged birthday party on October 4th during the 12 p.m. 00:04:30.724 --> 00:04:34.284 lunch hour. Remember that that meetup page is in Pacific time. 00:04:34.444 --> 00:04:36.684 So I put it in for 2 p.m. Pacific time. 00:04:38.586 --> 00:04:42.426 Is that right? I can't remember, but I put it in. So it equates to either way. 00:04:42.446 --> 00:04:44.586 It's at lunch during Texas Linux Fest. 00:04:44.946 --> 00:04:48.866 And there's a real nice place. It offers burgers, coffee, beer, 00:04:49.006 --> 00:04:53.966 cocktails right nearby with indoor and outdoor seating. So I think we'll just walk there. 00:04:54.646 --> 00:05:01.086 And we'll hold the 12th anniversary birthday party for Linux Unplugged on Saturday 00:05:01.086 --> 00:05:03.986 at Texas Linux Fest. It should be really fun, I think. 00:05:05.006 --> 00:05:09.546 and I think also I'm going to say grab the BitChat app while we're there on 00:05:09.546 --> 00:05:11.446 the ground why don't we all organize with BitChat, 00:05:11.966 --> 00:05:15.826 I think there's no servers required no accounts required it's just location 00:05:15.826 --> 00:05:19.946 and Bluetooth and IP based so get BitChat we'll have it linked in the show notes 00:05:19.946 --> 00:05:24.026 open source we've talked about it before could be a great way for us to just communicate that's. 00:05:24.026 --> 00:05:24.466 A good idea. 00:05:24.466 --> 00:05:28.406 As you get in the area and we do have our link we're trying to raise support 00:05:28.406 --> 00:05:32.126 to get to Texas Linux Fest we were going to do the commercial sponsoring route 00:05:32.126 --> 00:05:34.646 but nothing's really worked out and so the audience is stepping up in a big 00:05:34.646 --> 00:05:37.146 way to make sure that we can get down there and do what we do best, 00:05:37.806 --> 00:05:40.526 cover these special community events like nobody else does or can. 00:05:41.006 --> 00:05:43.646 And so we'll have a link in the show notes. You can use PayPal, 00:05:43.786 --> 00:05:48.186 Venmo, or OnChain, or Lightning to support us. 00:05:48.246 --> 00:05:52.026 And you can put a little message in there. I'm kind of playfully calling it a fake boost. 00:05:52.686 --> 00:05:57.446 You can also, of course, boost us and put a message in there for going right 00:05:57.446 --> 00:05:59.026 into our fund to get us down to Texas. 00:05:59.786 --> 00:06:03.926 And I also think you could consider picking up a VLOG identification item like 00:06:03.926 --> 00:06:05.746 a hat or a t-shirt at the Jupyter Garage. 00:06:06.066 --> 00:06:09.966 We have a couple of new ones up there that you could put on and get identified 00:06:09.966 --> 00:06:13.206 by the team right away. You can find that at JupyterGarage.com. 00:06:14.246 --> 00:06:16.086 I wonder, did we get the new hat colors on there? 00:06:16.186 --> 00:06:17.226 Ooh, good question. 00:06:17.486 --> 00:06:17.906 Yeah, I don't know. 00:06:17.906 --> 00:06:21.846 I'm getting excited already. I mean, the schedule for Texas Linux Fest is up now. 00:06:22.026 --> 00:06:26.246 It's looking good. It's looking real good. And you're on Saturday. 00:06:26.486 --> 00:06:27.166 That's right, yeah. 00:06:27.346 --> 00:06:29.366 Everybody should come see Wes's talk on Saturday. 00:06:29.546 --> 00:06:30.286 After our meetup. 00:06:32.170 --> 00:06:35.230 And then right before the after parties, which there'll probably be several of. 00:06:35.950 --> 00:06:39.130 So you could grab yourself a VLOG identification item. So that way you stand 00:06:39.130 --> 00:06:41.030 up from the crowd at jupytergarage.com. 00:06:41.230 --> 00:06:46.130 Of course, we have the booths and we have the playfully titled fake booths. 00:06:46.170 --> 00:06:48.950 If you would like to support us that way, we'll have a link for that in the show notes. 00:06:49.110 --> 00:06:51.530 And we'll have an update on how we're doing in just a little bit. 00:06:54.890 --> 00:06:58.410 But KDE hit a new release stage in this last week. 00:06:58.530 --> 00:07:01.390 And we wanted to take a look at it. We've been talking about it on and off to 00:07:01.390 --> 00:07:05.330 our bootleg members and just wanted to get everyone caught up really quickly. 00:07:05.650 --> 00:07:10.170 The KDE community that makes the Plasma desktop has also now started creating 00:07:10.170 --> 00:07:11.270 their own distribution. 00:07:11.690 --> 00:07:16.650 And it's built by the KDE project to sort of feature the Plasma desktop and Plasma technologies. 00:07:17.010 --> 00:07:21.510 And we've entered into, it's still, I guess it's not, it's alpha, 00:07:21.610 --> 00:07:23.550 but it's not alpha, alpha. I mean, how are they calling? 00:07:23.550 --> 00:07:30.130 I mean, they do call it the alpha release of KDE Linux, at least Nate did over in his blog post. 00:07:30.170 --> 00:07:33.350 It's like the next alpha, I suppose. I mean, the reason why I'm trying to make 00:07:33.350 --> 00:07:36.330 this clear is it's still early days, everybody. 00:07:36.550 --> 00:07:40.790 But it is a new operating system intended eventually to be at a spot where you 00:07:40.790 --> 00:07:41.950 could daily drive this thing. 00:07:42.030 --> 00:07:46.790 It would showcase Plasma and KDE software in the best light they feel that the developers feel. 00:07:47.390 --> 00:07:50.850 And they would try to highlight modern technologies in their Wayland and Butterfess. 00:07:51.530 --> 00:07:56.010 So I think what's notable is they're calling this a testing edition now. 00:07:56.170 --> 00:07:59.930 So it's still considered alpha, but it's at the stage where they want to get public testing. 00:08:00.770 --> 00:08:05.910 So in there right now is an unreleased version of Plasma. Plasma 6.5 is in there right now. 00:08:06.350 --> 00:08:08.850 And so you can get to play with the latest and greatest stuff that way. 00:08:09.250 --> 00:08:13.170 And I know immediately you're probably thinking as you listen to this, boys, 00:08:14.414 --> 00:08:19.534 Why do we need another Linux distro? Why? Well, this is what the KDE project says. 00:08:19.794 --> 00:08:22.994 They say, quote, KDE is a huge producer of software. 00:08:23.434 --> 00:08:26.554 It's awkward for us not to have our own method of distributing it. 00:08:26.914 --> 00:08:32.234 Yes, KDE produces open source that others distribute, but we self-distribute 00:08:32.234 --> 00:08:35.534 our apps on app stores like FlatHub and the Snap Store and Microsoft stores. 00:08:35.774 --> 00:08:41.054 So I think it's natural for us to have our own platform for doing that distribution too. 00:08:41.494 --> 00:08:45.994 And that is an operating system. and so that's kind of what they say now brent there's neon though. 00:08:45.994 --> 00:08:49.034 Yeah nate has some words here about neon because well 00:08:49.034 --> 00:08:52.034 if you remember that was the old version or 00:08:52.034 --> 00:08:55.014 oof am i supposed to call it that but that was the version 00:08:55.014 --> 00:08:59.894 of linux that they were putting out for developers and those of us who are i 00:08:59.894 --> 00:09:02.774 don't know interested in finding bugs to give it a shot chris you were running 00:09:02.774 --> 00:09:08.274 that for a long time in studio too yeah indeed at least nate says kd is not 00:09:08.274 --> 00:09:13.374 cancelled however it has shed most of its developers over the years, which is problematic, 00:09:13.714 --> 00:09:17.534 and it's currently being held together by a heroic volunteer. 00:09:18.094 --> 00:09:22.954 While Neon continues to exist, KDE Linux therefore does represent duplication. 00:09:23.274 --> 00:09:26.914 As for unnecessary, I'm not sure about that. 00:09:27.454 --> 00:09:32.834 Harold, myself, and others feel that KDE Neon has somewhat reached its limit 00:09:32.834 --> 00:09:34.654 in terms of what we can do with it. 00:09:34.874 --> 00:09:41.134 It was a great First product that KDE distributed some software and prepared 00:09:41.134 --> 00:09:43.954 the world for the idea of KDE in that role. 00:09:44.174 --> 00:09:46.814 And it served admirably for about a decade. 00:09:47.314 --> 00:09:52.574 But technological and conceptual issues limit how far we can continue to develop it. 00:09:52.754 --> 00:09:56.394 I mean, I can definitely understand preferring, even in an alpha, 00:09:56.614 --> 00:09:58.174 what they've got going now to develop. 00:09:58.816 --> 00:10:01.796 to putting things together the way Katie Neon did. That said, 00:10:02.256 --> 00:10:03.936 I mean, I ran it for years. 00:10:04.156 --> 00:10:06.876 We ran it at the studio for years. It really did work well. 00:10:07.116 --> 00:10:10.736 Yeah. Yeah, I think during his heyday, it was actually a really great showcase. 00:10:11.456 --> 00:10:16.056 I guess I do empathize with the idea of that was our V1 and this is our V2. 00:10:16.676 --> 00:10:18.276 I can kind of connect with that. 00:10:18.416 --> 00:10:22.056 And it feels like, you know, designing something like this 10 years ago versus 00:10:22.056 --> 00:10:27.376 designing it in, you know, with modern applications and construction in mind. 00:10:27.376 --> 00:10:29.596 Of course, they're going to come up with a very different product. 00:10:29.896 --> 00:10:33.396 All right, BigPain. So they keep saying it's a modern, it's a modern design. 00:10:33.796 --> 00:10:38.216 What do they mean when they're saying it's modern? What does that mean in today's Linux distro parlance? 00:10:38.696 --> 00:10:42.496 Yeah, we do live in an interesting time where people are building all kinds 00:10:42.496 --> 00:10:44.476 of new wacky different versions of Linux. 00:10:44.856 --> 00:10:49.516 This is not using OS Tree or Bootsy like we've seen over, like when we talk 00:10:49.516 --> 00:10:50.996 about our uBlue friends. 00:10:51.856 --> 00:10:55.796 I guess they're using Arch as a base, but then they're using a tool called Make 00:10:55.796 --> 00:11:00.316 OSI that produces like a operating system image file. 00:11:00.536 --> 00:11:06.596 And then under the hood, you get a ButterFS main partition with a system sub-volume 00:11:06.596 --> 00:11:08.736 that is your sort of like writable world. 00:11:09.116 --> 00:11:14.856 And then they're using EROFS, which is like a read-only file system that the 00:11:14.856 --> 00:11:17.076 kernel has a modern take on that. 00:11:17.256 --> 00:11:23.276 And so they ship these images that they build as these EROFS read-only file 00:11:23.276 --> 00:11:27.636 systems that get put on your file system and managed by systemd with updatectl 00:11:27.636 --> 00:11:30.016 and there's a whole suite of systemd tools for this. 00:11:30.176 --> 00:11:36.216 Right, so you update with systemd. That's crazy. It's fun. It's not the best UI, but it's fun. 00:11:36.296 --> 00:11:38.776 And then, of course, that can hook into the systemd boot stuff. 00:11:38.796 --> 00:11:42.456 Right now, this does only work on UEFI systems and so you can have the A, 00:11:42.556 --> 00:11:44.656 B, different versions that you can roll back to. 00:11:45.316 --> 00:11:48.676 And there's a lot to like in terms of you really just download a new file system 00:11:48.676 --> 00:11:52.736 image onto your hard drive, gets kind of rigged up a little, just a little bit, 00:11:52.956 --> 00:11:55.616 connect a few dots, and then it seemed I 00:11:55.616 --> 00:11:58.476 did I was doing some poking mostly because 00:11:58.476 --> 00:12:01.496 it foils a lot of like the sort of kegs xf 00:12:01.496 --> 00:12:04.676 I like to do they do actually load the pmem module that 00:12:04.676 --> 00:12:07.356 I needed in the init ram fs already which I had to extract out of 00:12:07.356 --> 00:12:11.836 the unified kernel that they uh boot but they're using something where basically 00:12:11.836 --> 00:12:17.256 systemd systemd boot passes an efi variable that tells it which drive it booted 00:12:17.256 --> 00:12:20.796 from and then it can just use the gpt partitioning to figure out what your root 00:12:20.796 --> 00:12:24.976 is automatically and it sort of like auto generates these mount units for you. 00:12:25.236 --> 00:12:30.376 And then on top of that, KDE Linux is making sure that this EROFS, 00:12:30.596 --> 00:12:33.536 so it's like it mounts the ButterFS system as your actual root, 00:12:33.576 --> 00:12:37.396 but then immediately before you ever get anywhere, it mounts this read-only 00:12:37.396 --> 00:12:39.596 to just the slash user part. 00:12:40.156 --> 00:12:42.776 And so all of that comes from their pre-built images. 00:12:43.396 --> 00:12:45.836 Ah, and where you're living is in the sub-volume. 00:12:46.316 --> 00:12:49.876 That's where stuff like Etsy and other places that you can write to. 00:12:50.056 --> 00:12:51.516 Is home in there too in the sub-volume? 00:12:51.596 --> 00:12:51.716 Yeah. 00:12:53.012 --> 00:12:56.232 Yeah, okay. That's actually a pretty clever way to lay it out. 00:12:56.552 --> 00:13:00.052 I like that when I looked at it first, I thought, oh, okay, they didn't do home 00:13:00.052 --> 00:13:02.192 as its own partition. No, no, because it's in that sub-volume group. 00:13:02.552 --> 00:13:05.692 And, you know, they actually listed explicitly things like Nix or other tools 00:13:05.692 --> 00:13:09.592 like, you know, if we don't do, they were originally at some point in their 00:13:09.592 --> 00:13:13.032 design doing a fully, like, immutable, just like at root. 00:13:13.632 --> 00:13:18.052 But they felt this gave them a lot of the same guarantees, but with a little more compatibility. 00:13:18.112 --> 00:13:21.192 Although I did very quickly try to install Nix and it was kind of failing because 00:13:21.192 --> 00:13:25.252 it was trying to write under user local, I think, which was still read-only 00:13:25.252 --> 00:13:28.392 and so still was breaking some things. But I didn't try that hard. 00:13:28.732 --> 00:13:31.812 So this has been one of my questions is, and you just touched on it, 00:13:32.992 --> 00:13:34.532 who is this ultimately for? 00:13:36.252 --> 00:13:41.372 And I guess what you just alluded to is there is some flexibility in the underlying 00:13:41.372 --> 00:13:47.632 system because one of the groups they're clearly targeting is developers. 00:13:47.632 --> 00:13:52.772 They say, quote, you want to participate in KDE's QA process and find issues 00:13:52.772 --> 00:13:57.292 or early bugs, or, quote, you are a KDE Plasma developer, are some of the groups 00:13:57.292 --> 00:14:00.092 they implicitly state on their website they're targeting as developers. 00:14:00.292 --> 00:14:05.052 And so my concern is a lot of times an immutable system is a little too rigid 00:14:05.052 --> 00:14:08.292 and you end up doing everything in distro box or everything in containers because 00:14:08.292 --> 00:14:10.872 developers need tools. They need libraries. 00:14:11.092 --> 00:14:15.052 They need all the crap that they use to build their particular applications 00:14:15.052 --> 00:14:17.752 with their particular workflow, with their particular preferences. 00:14:18.632 --> 00:14:22.252 That's where an immutable distro can be a little bit of friction. 00:14:22.572 --> 00:14:25.452 And if you're trying to make something where people can come and build applications 00:14:25.452 --> 00:14:27.592 for the Plasma desktop, they're going to need to be able to, 00:14:28.533 --> 00:14:33.513 I don't know, what would be a basic closure setup for you, and could you get 00:14:33.513 --> 00:14:34.873 that working on something like this? 00:14:35.533 --> 00:14:38.533 Yeah, I mean, I do think you are probably going to run into some limits. 00:14:38.533 --> 00:14:40.873 It does support homebrew, so you can get homebrew going. 00:14:41.093 --> 00:14:44.673 It's kind of like a lot of these modern systems. If it sufficiently sideloads 00:14:44.673 --> 00:14:47.733 cleanly, then you can kind of make it work maybe with some modifications or 00:14:47.733 --> 00:14:50.193 some jerry-rig support that you might need. 00:14:50.593 --> 00:14:56.033 And, of course, for a lot of stuff, especially with KDE, there's flat packs are very first class. 00:14:56.033 --> 00:14:59.713 so even if you want to develop some on kde software because 00:14:59.713 --> 00:15:02.613 they do have a section in their wiki that kind of addresses like well 00:15:02.613 --> 00:15:05.913 here's how you might go about developing non-kde software 00:15:05.913 --> 00:15:08.913 and how do you what if you want to work on the distro itself and so there's 00:15:08.913 --> 00:15:12.973 various setups i do think right containerization or things will probably come 00:15:12.973 --> 00:15:18.593 into play they do mention um distro box as well and and docker yep um and system 00:15:18.593 --> 00:15:23.773 d system extensions is another tool that they seem to be adopting in a pretty first class way that. 00:15:23.773 --> 00:15:27.913 Felt like when i come next time i come back around to kdelinux that i think i want to play with. 00:15:27.913 --> 00:15:32.093 And that lets you kind of do another take at this like overlaying right you 00:15:32.093 --> 00:15:35.633 can be like oh hey i want you to overlay these files on top of my what i've 00:15:35.633 --> 00:15:39.773 already got going on slash user to then add this extra especially with systemd 00:15:39.773 --> 00:15:43.433 where like you can override and hook in new units and lots of things. 00:15:43.433 --> 00:15:46.753 They do say in the documentation though install at your own risk this could 00:15:46.753 --> 00:15:51.093 break things and i think that's the takeaway for this entire distribution is 00:15:51.093 --> 00:15:55.173 install at your own risk it's it's still early and that said brent i know you've 00:15:55.173 --> 00:15:57.533 had a little bit of time with it we've all just spent kind of the weekend with 00:15:57.533 --> 00:16:00.553 it i'm curious what your first impressions were. 00:16:00.553 --> 00:16:04.553 As soon as i hit download it was the excitement i think anything coming out 00:16:04.553 --> 00:16:08.953 of the kd project i've been a fan of for a long time and we've been hearing. 00:16:08.953 --> 00:16:10.753 About your bias here now there. 00:16:10.753 --> 00:16:14.513 Is a bias for sure i think that's worth mentioning is i think all three of us 00:16:14.513 --> 00:16:19.033 we've become over the years pretty impressed with what the plasma desktop has 00:16:19.033 --> 00:16:22.653 achieved and the kde apps and ecosystem and the consistency that they've achieved 00:16:22.653 --> 00:16:24.813 so you're right brent but I think they've earned it. 00:16:25.113 --> 00:16:28.093 They've earned it by producing and being there year after year. 00:16:28.333 --> 00:16:31.793 And if you look at the transition from the five series to six series and how 00:16:31.793 --> 00:16:34.413 smooth that went, it's really impressive from that team. 00:16:35.333 --> 00:16:40.753 And so I think I've been excited about this coming since we heard little murmurs 00:16:40.753 --> 00:16:43.333 about it. What was that? Six months ago, something like that. 00:16:43.633 --> 00:16:48.153 So it's nice to see it finally come out. And yeah, sure. I'm biased and excited. 00:16:48.333 --> 00:16:53.393 So that was the first going into it emotion that i felt now i did of course 00:16:53.393 --> 00:16:56.993 see some differences like the download is a dot raw that was a little new for 00:16:56.993 --> 00:17:00.533 me i don't believe i've installed anything from a dot raw, 00:17:01.033 --> 00:17:05.393 uh typically you know you get an iso or something like that and i wondered if 00:17:05.393 --> 00:17:09.933 that would give me any issues but you know this being an alpha i thought i'm 00:17:09.933 --> 00:17:12.733 just gonna give it a quick test in a vm and that's, 00:17:13.584 --> 00:17:16.724 plenty fine maybe for a first go around 00:17:16.724 --> 00:17:21.004 and that booted up just fine if you you know give it enough space and all of 00:17:21.004 --> 00:17:27.304 that stuff what i ran into quickly though was i had issues partitioning and 00:17:27.304 --> 00:17:30.804 i know wes you were like i didn't have any issues at all but something about 00:17:30.804 --> 00:17:33.664 my setup gave me issues in the installer yeah. 00:17:33.664 --> 00:17:36.624 I installed it probably like 10 times overall just. 00:17:36.624 --> 00:17:37.924 Because i I kept tweaking and trying stuff. 00:17:37.924 --> 00:17:39.384 And all of them worked. 00:17:39.624 --> 00:17:45.484 And I don't know what I did. I obviously tried to troubleshoot it quite a bit 00:17:45.484 --> 00:17:50.784 and I did make some progress and I ended up the auto partitioning wasn't really 00:17:50.784 --> 00:17:52.744 working for me for whatever reason. 00:17:52.744 --> 00:17:55.264 So I ended up doing, you know, doing it manually. 00:17:55.504 --> 00:18:00.744 And even then I would get to the install process and it would chug for a little 00:18:00.744 --> 00:18:03.504 bit and then eventually get some IO errors and things like that. 00:18:03.584 --> 00:18:07.204 So it could very, very, very well be. It's my particular setup. 00:18:07.424 --> 00:18:09.184 How did you break your virtual hardware? 00:18:09.404 --> 00:18:14.444 Why is everything always breaking around me? So I did the smart thing and wrote 00:18:14.444 --> 00:18:19.504 that raw image to a USB drive and figured, go bare metal, baby. 00:18:20.724 --> 00:18:26.324 And so I gave that a shot today. And strangely, that excitement was still there. 00:18:27.704 --> 00:18:30.484 And I still didn't have anywhere to install it 00:18:30.484 --> 00:18:34.344 because I didn't want to wipe the entire you know framework maybe 00:18:34.344 --> 00:18:38.184 an hour or two before the show but I 00:18:38.184 --> 00:18:41.564 get a sense you guys might convince me to do that after the show but 00:18:41.564 --> 00:18:44.344 I did get it running and ran into a couple little 00:18:44.344 --> 00:18:47.084 bugs like plasma crashed one time and I 00:18:47.084 --> 00:18:52.564 did have some errors doing updates but eventually an image came in and I realized 00:18:52.564 --> 00:18:58.004 these are huge I know the installer told me hey you're gonna need at least 40 00:18:58.004 --> 00:19:02.904 gigs to install this as opposed to what typically we see like 8 16 gigs something 00:19:02.904 --> 00:19:06.964 like that so i know there's stuff that's a little different under the if. 00:19:06.964 --> 00:19:10.724 The images are big and if you've got a big faster net connection it's no big 00:19:10.724 --> 00:19:13.444 deal and if you're on a slower connection you really feel it. 00:19:13.444 --> 00:19:16.104 They weren't even that fast i have a pretty decent. 00:19:16.104 --> 00:19:17.064 Connection and it. 00:19:17.064 --> 00:19:18.284 Was still you know a few minutes. 00:19:18.284 --> 00:19:23.424 Yeah when i did the update ctl update or upgrade whatever it was at first i 00:19:23.424 --> 00:19:26.624 thought nothing was happening and then i realized that that progress bar was 00:19:26.624 --> 00:19:30.864 just taking a real long time it was just at like one or zero percent it does have. 00:19:30.864 --> 00:19:32.584 A fancy little colored progress bar though. 00:19:32.584 --> 00:19:34.264 That's true and. 00:19:34.264 --> 00:19:39.004 Once that image is downloaded it switched so fast i thought it failed, 00:19:39.911 --> 00:19:43.571 so there's that for it it's got that going forward um i'm curious what your 00:19:43.571 --> 00:19:45.311 impressions were just kicking the tires wes. 00:19:45.311 --> 00:19:48.211 Yeah i like it i mean it's a it's a very 00:19:48.211 --> 00:19:51.411 lean system pretty much everything's just in flatbacks a 00:19:51.411 --> 00:19:54.431 little bit in the base system as little as they can i think yeah 00:19:54.431 --> 00:19:57.231 so it's pretty snappy uh which is nice you know comes from a 00:19:57.231 --> 00:20:00.591 pretty nice little arch base for what you do get in the base system i 00:20:00.591 --> 00:20:04.671 was trying it out in a vm i did try it on hardware at the end too but in my 00:20:04.671 --> 00:20:09.171 first install i noticed that my mouse was totally upside down but in a way where 00:20:09.171 --> 00:20:12.971 i clearly like where you clicked was down no longer where anywhere that was 00:20:12.971 --> 00:20:15.671 drawing the mouse so you kind of had to guess it was just like a little you 00:20:15.671 --> 00:20:17.951 know a few millimeters above that it's. 00:20:17.951 --> 00:20:19.411 We run into that every now and then. 00:20:19.411 --> 00:20:20.211 Yeah but not. 00:20:20.211 --> 00:20:22.791 Unusual but i saw other folks reporting that issue as well. 00:20:22.791 --> 00:20:25.471 And so i just thought like is this some weird issue you know 00:20:25.471 --> 00:20:28.491 what there's a lot of ways that could happen but it was just a plasma issue 00:20:28.491 --> 00:20:31.351 because like or something some way that they were plugging it all together because 00:20:31.351 --> 00:20:34.731 not only did it not do that at the login screen uh 00:20:34.731 --> 00:20:37.951 but then after i did an update it totally went away so um 00:20:37.951 --> 00:20:41.571 and i see i could see because i was running over a couple days that yeah they've 00:20:41.571 --> 00:20:45.431 clearly got their ci all hooked up and it's pumping out like daily or nightly 00:20:45.431 --> 00:20:49.411 images that you get updates for i don't know that they have like the binary 00:20:49.411 --> 00:20:52.611 diff stuff that they eventually want to be able to do happening right now so 00:20:52.611 --> 00:20:55.811 you know do be aware of that if you're on a connection yeah. 00:20:55.811 --> 00:20:59.651 Yeah if you're metered you might you might maybe wait because i'm sure it's 00:20:59.651 --> 00:21:01.111 under very rapid development at the moment. 00:21:01.111 --> 00:21:05.371 I do think like if you're someone who really likes fresh Plasma and wants to 00:21:05.371 --> 00:21:09.771 live dangerously, if you can already make a system like this work where you 00:21:09.771 --> 00:21:11.151 are doing stuff in containers, 00:21:11.411 --> 00:21:15.511 you're happy to run stuff in Flatpak or as browser tabs, then for that kind 00:21:15.511 --> 00:21:17.411 of workstation, it'd be totally fine. 00:21:17.891 --> 00:21:21.251 I asked you guys earlier, who's this for? And I'll tell you what my use case is. 00:21:22.031 --> 00:21:26.991 I want to check out Plasma from time to time. And why not spend the weekend in the latest Plasma? 00:21:27.471 --> 00:21:31.231 And now that you've got the functionally atomic setup, 00:21:31.951 --> 00:21:35.311 while it is like this brand new setup and maybe you're on these unreleased versions 00:21:35.311 --> 00:21:39.511 and all that like that sharp edge is at least somewhat blunted by the fact that 00:21:39.511 --> 00:21:43.171 you can roll back if you do have a known good state that's fair. 00:21:43.391 --> 00:21:44.991 That's fair you have that sort of safety net. 00:21:44.991 --> 00:21:47.991 I'm not saying go switch all your business employees to this but you know. 00:21:47.991 --> 00:21:52.731 I mean it right now is very much, it's an MVP it ships with Dolphin Console, 00:21:52.871 --> 00:21:56.971 Arc Spectacle, Discover Infocenter, System Settings and a couple other system 00:21:56.971 --> 00:22:01.171 level apps in the base image and then Kate and Firefox are installed via Flatpak. 00:22:02.650 --> 00:22:04.090 That's pretty much it, boys. 00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:04.650 Lean. 00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:10.030 It is. Which I don't mind. Discover is installed, already pre-configured to look at FlatHub. 00:22:10.930 --> 00:22:14.610 The one thing that really stands out, though, when you're on a really lean system 00:22:14.610 --> 00:22:20.590 and you open up Discover, I don't know what they're using to pick what shows. 00:22:20.890 --> 00:22:24.930 But, like, so if you wanted somebody to be able to sit down and install this 00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:28.790 and be able to maybe just add some of the most common applications, 00:22:28.790 --> 00:22:33.170 that's not what's on the front page of Discover. It's like a random selection of apps. 00:22:34.090 --> 00:22:36.070 So you really have to know what you're looking for, which is fine, 00:22:36.090 --> 00:22:40.790 but it'd be kind of cool just to have, you know, maybe like a curated selection 00:22:40.790 --> 00:22:43.530 of like the most go-to apps that people need to get their system working and 00:22:43.530 --> 00:22:44.690 functional just right there. 00:22:45.390 --> 00:22:48.610 I was really happy to see ButterFS on route. Nice to see that. 00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:53.230 And they also have a Z standard compression, as our friends would say, enabled by default. 00:22:53.410 --> 00:22:55.570 They also have the SSD flag turned on. 00:22:56.270 --> 00:23:02.170 but ultimately my impression was is plasma 6.5 i get to play with plasma 6.5. 00:23:02.170 --> 00:23:02.790 What this. 00:23:02.790 --> 00:23:06.770 Is great i don't have to mess up my my whole system just to go play with plasma. 00:23:06.770 --> 00:23:10.210 This is another case right where like since they do have all the automation 00:23:10.210 --> 00:23:15.250 set up you just get these stamped output regular snapshots of what um what the 00:23:15.250 --> 00:23:17.290 trees look like i don't know the exact details but. 00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:22.150 Some of the stuff that i that actually really tickled me in 6.5 has been in 00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:27.030 plasma at least for a couple of releases but just for an example the remote 00:23:27.030 --> 00:23:30.550 desktop stuff is so nice now, 00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:34.190 you go into system settings remote desktops in that there's 00:23:34.190 --> 00:23:37.090 a section for it you enable a user 00:23:37.090 --> 00:23:40.390 so i turned on i added my user and then 00:23:40.390 --> 00:23:43.770 you check a box and then it gives you your ip and 00:23:43.770 --> 00:23:46.710 so i went over to another computer i installed krdp or 00:23:46.710 --> 00:23:49.770 whatever it is put in the ip address set no 00:23:49.770 --> 00:23:52.730 other settings hit enter and entered my 00:23:52.730 --> 00:23:57.430 username and password and i was remote controlling the plasma that plasma machine 00:23:57.430 --> 00:24:03.230 a katie linux machine over whalen over whalen on both systems on both ends no 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:07.010 problem really good performance like i could move the windows around with the 00:24:07.010 --> 00:24:09.790 wobble and everything now obviously wait. 00:24:09.790 --> 00:24:10.890 With the what what. 00:24:10.890 --> 00:24:14.990 Did you say with the wobbles you gotta have the Wobble, right? 00:24:15.590 --> 00:24:21.250 I want the absolute latest version of the Wobble. I want nightly Wobble, okay? And I have it now. 00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:25.310 And the remote desktop, all that stuff, like the things they've been adding to Plasma, 00:24:26.958 --> 00:24:31.398 It's so well refined and comes together in 6.5. So who's it for? 00:24:31.578 --> 00:24:33.738 I think it's for people that want to just experience Plasma. 00:24:34.838 --> 00:24:38.818 Maybe you're creating an application and you want to see how it works on kind 00:24:38.818 --> 00:24:42.238 of like the reference Plasma desktop. 00:24:42.438 --> 00:24:45.598 Because I think that's what this is striving for is the reference Plasma desktop. 00:24:45.718 --> 00:24:48.458 And for some users, that's going to be very appealing to them. 00:24:49.138 --> 00:24:52.538 For other folks, it might be something we check in from time to time. 00:24:54.058 --> 00:24:59.818 But, I mean, does it feel like an alpha? a little but like you're saying you 00:24:59.818 --> 00:25:04.298 can always revert like nate he's been running it for months on on the daily 00:25:04.298 --> 00:25:06.378 so it's getting to a point already. 00:25:06.378 --> 00:25:10.518 I do think right like we are the ecosystem is adapting now to work better in 00:25:10.518 --> 00:25:13.898 this environment where like what you depend on from that core operating system 00:25:13.898 --> 00:25:18.298 is is less and less and that means there's less that you have to get to to get 00:25:18.298 --> 00:25:20.178 to sort of minimum viable distro in that sense. 00:25:20.178 --> 00:25:28.358 I also get a vibe that maybe there's a long-term goal to create a reference platform for OEMs. 00:25:29.118 --> 00:25:33.358 Hardware manufacturers that want to ship laptops or tablets or whatever using 00:25:33.358 --> 00:25:36.598 Plasma. And we also seem to have a bit of a roadmap. 00:25:37.318 --> 00:25:40.718 Three additions are planned. Testing, which will be like daily Git builds. 00:25:41.178 --> 00:25:44.458 Enthusiast, which will be the beta versions of released KDE software. 00:25:45.118 --> 00:25:48.638 And then Stable, which will be only released quality checked software. 00:25:48.758 --> 00:25:52.358 So you'll have three additions of KDE Linux eventually. There's only one right now. 00:25:52.358 --> 00:25:53.658 Right because. 00:25:53.658 --> 00:25:58.338 It's probably it's all just testing right now but uh that kind of also sort 00:25:58.338 --> 00:26:03.678 of slices it up right enthusiasts you could go check out the the enthusiast 00:26:03.678 --> 00:26:08.238 track of it or whatever you want to call it or the enthusiast edition i think it's good. 00:26:08.238 --> 00:26:11.598 One thing i wonder you know in the ublue world there's it 00:26:11.598 --> 00:26:15.938 is very much on like the container side of this tech i wonder you know what 00:26:15.938 --> 00:26:19.978 you see there where it's also encouraged like you can just import that and add 00:26:19.978 --> 00:26:23.598 your own layers on top and make your own thing i wonder will people fork this 00:26:23.598 --> 00:26:27.458 will there be like you know system extensions or things that become like here's 00:26:27.458 --> 00:26:31.198 like an add-on for kd linux obviously not right now but maybe these. 00:26:31.198 --> 00:26:36.398 Additions also get me thinking about who is the audience right like uh daily 00:26:36.398 --> 00:26:40.358 get builds i totally get that through testing even maybe enthusiasts you get 00:26:40.358 --> 00:26:45.358 bug checkers and things like that but i guess it's natural to put out a stable 00:26:45.358 --> 00:26:48.598 but is that really their goal makes me is that maybe for. 00:26:48.598 --> 00:26:50.598 The neon folks that have been you know because neon. 00:26:50.598 --> 00:26:53.518 Has been based on a boat to lts great so. 00:26:53.518 --> 00:26:54.778 Maybe this is yeah for them, 00:26:56.620 --> 00:26:59.800 And if you were going to run it on the daily yourself, that might be the one you want to target. 00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:04.240 Because even with the stable version, I'm sure once the next version of Plasma 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.540 is considered stable, you get it probably that day. 00:27:06.840 --> 00:27:10.160 Although I wonder, because there's the Plasma component, but then there's, 00:27:10.340 --> 00:27:12.580 like, if they're using Arch as the upstream, there's the... 00:27:12.580 --> 00:27:13.360 That's true. 00:27:13.860 --> 00:27:17.600 I don't know how many net packages it is that we could take a look at. 00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:21.660 Maybe that's not a crazy burden, but in theory, that is rolling underneath still that you get snapshots? 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.840 Unless they're backporting, you know, there's... 00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:26.920 And Chris, maybe it's perfect for you. you run stable most of the time and then 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.080 when you want to get that weekend where you get a little preview you just switch 00:27:30.080 --> 00:27:31.860 images to testing and give it. 00:27:31.860 --> 00:27:34.640 A couple right you could rebase that is one 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:39.860 of the that is one of this distro hopping is going to be something that we tell 00:27:39.860 --> 00:27:44.780 future generations that we used to do oh yeah we used to reload the entire system 00:27:44.780 --> 00:27:49.000 and we'd we'd we'd format it or some some of us would have separate partitions 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.440 or drives for our home folder and we'd move we'd keep that between the reinstalls 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:53.760 and it'd be a couple hours. 00:27:54.040 --> 00:27:56.800 Or people had slick setups right on their case so they could switch, 00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.320 which was like the primary hard drive. 00:27:58.620 --> 00:27:58.800 All the switches. 00:27:58.980 --> 00:28:01.480 We used to like K-Exec, you know? That used to be a thing. 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.620 But now we just rebase and in five minutes you're on the new thing. 00:28:05.840 --> 00:28:06.160 Lame. 00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:10.760 It is nice though to be able to check things out. You could rebase to testing 00:28:10.760 --> 00:28:12.200 for the weekend and then go back to stable. 00:28:13.060 --> 00:28:16.580 So interesting. I think it's going to be a distribution to watch, 00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:18.000 obviously just because of who's making it. 00:28:18.560 --> 00:28:22.780 The security updates will lag a bit behind Arch. They say by a day or so. 00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:27.120 Maybe that gives a little insight to the process there. The governance seems 00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:31.480 to be run by, quote, a council of elders, according to LWN, with a final arbiter involved. 00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:36.260 And if there's ever an end of life to KDE Linux, like they, and I like that 00:28:36.260 --> 00:28:37.380 they're talking about this. 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:44.580 If the project fails, they say a last update will convert the system into another supported distro. 00:28:45.700 --> 00:28:48.300 Thinking about the whole lifecycle up front is smart. That's, 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:53.820 I don't know what that, what exactly that means, but okay, they're promising. 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:55.340 It goes back to neon. 00:28:57.260 --> 00:28:58.040 Nix, NixOS. 00:29:03.820 --> 00:29:08.420 OnePassword.com slash unplugged. 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I've been biting my tongue, but some big things happened this 00:32:08.247 --> 00:32:09.547 week, so we're going to talk about it a little bit. 00:32:09.587 --> 00:32:14.267 While Wes, while we do this segment, attempts to get it running on a laptop 00:32:14.267 --> 00:32:21.587 live during the show. So, Wes Payne, are you ready to install Hypervibe on that laptop? 00:32:21.847 --> 00:32:26.887 Well, we'll see. As Jeff knows well, you have a notoriously large config. 00:32:27.167 --> 00:32:27.467 Yes. 00:32:27.867 --> 00:32:31.407 So I think we're going to see what things need to get trimmed down to make this work. 00:32:31.567 --> 00:32:34.767 My config highlights the best that free software has to offer. 00:32:35.167 --> 00:32:41.067 So there's a lot in there. So it's been a bit. Hyperland 0.51 dropped this week, 00:32:41.147 --> 00:32:42.727 and they added a new gesture. 00:32:43.007 --> 00:32:45.087 It actually completely reworked the gesture system. 00:32:45.447 --> 00:32:49.447 With true one-to-one trackpad gestures, you can map to fingers and modifiers 00:32:49.447 --> 00:32:55.927 and all kinds of cool directions, and you can now set scroll factors per device, which is really fun. 00:32:55.947 --> 00:32:56.607 That's nice. 00:32:56.607 --> 00:32:59.967 So you can dial in the mouse and you can dial in the touchpad and they don't 00:32:59.967 --> 00:33:01.587 have to have the same exact scroll settings. 00:33:01.987 --> 00:33:06.147 There was a rework on animations. I got a nice polish with smoother transitions for pop-ups. 00:33:06.887 --> 00:33:11.607 And screen sharing for Chrome and Firefox is fixed up a little bit with 8-bit 00:33:11.607 --> 00:33:12.707 color, so it's a little bit faster. 00:33:13.347 --> 00:33:19.067 So I had to incorporate all of this into Hypervibe. And I had to fix up some deprecated configs. 00:33:19.127 --> 00:33:21.447 I had to go in and change a few things around the new gesture system. 00:33:22.527 --> 00:33:29.387 I got all that refactored. But the thing that was big is I also have a new shared 00:33:29.387 --> 00:33:32.267 module stack. So all my hosts now have a consistent base. 00:33:33.027 --> 00:33:36.827 And then I have independent configs for each host. And then I've cleaned things 00:33:36.827 --> 00:33:40.127 up to make builds go faster. Like I removed WebGTK. 00:33:40.587 --> 00:33:42.267 Yeah, I wonder if you didn't push that yet. 00:33:42.267 --> 00:33:43.847 Because oh maybe not i'm. 00:33:43.847 --> 00:33:44.747 Having to do that right. 00:33:44.747 --> 00:33:46.987 Now you're going to be building webg yeah i'm removing. 00:33:46.987 --> 00:33:49.067 A bunch i think i i think i got it gone. 00:33:49.067 --> 00:33:53.147 Yeah you're not going to want that it takes forever to build and it's telegram 00:33:53.147 --> 00:33:57.687 and folate they pull it in and telegram you can just install as a flat pack 00:33:57.687 --> 00:34:02.447 so i i guess in the config i haven't committed yet i pulled out telegram as 00:34:02.447 --> 00:34:03.427 a package and now it's making. 00:34:03.427 --> 00:34:04.307 It harder for me. 00:34:04.307 --> 00:34:07.187 I know i'm sorry i also now have fixed 00:34:07.187 --> 00:34:09.927 auto updates i had this ridiculous bug where auto updates were 00:34:09.927 --> 00:34:12.607 building the wrong version so now 00:34:12.607 --> 00:34:15.747 they're locked to my repos flake so the system only 00:34:15.747 --> 00:34:18.487 builds against known good configs i overhauled i 00:34:18.487 --> 00:34:21.987 overhauled the way bar the clock is cleaner supports multiple time zones in 00:34:21.987 --> 00:34:26.227 the drop down now now and some systems people are having problems with the emojis 00:34:26.227 --> 00:34:30.907 so i simplified that i also have set up better device rules so android phones 00:34:30.907 --> 00:34:34.787 and a lot of usb gear just works without warnings you just plug it in and you 00:34:34.787 --> 00:34:36.827 should be able to access your usb device or like your android, 00:34:38.261 --> 00:34:43.341 I've moved to Kitty, and I've moved to NerdFonts, and that all looks really nice now. 00:34:43.821 --> 00:34:46.901 And I've installed Cursor. I'm playing around with the Cursor editor, 00:34:48.021 --> 00:34:51.061 and it should be able to edit the files it needs to edit and things like that. 00:34:51.141 --> 00:34:56.261 But all in all, new features, lots of tuning. It is all there. 00:34:56.361 --> 00:35:00.941 The new version of Hyperland has launched, and Hypervibe, my distro on Nix, 00:35:01.201 --> 00:35:05.441 has taken full advantage of all of them. It's looking real beautiful. 00:35:06.141 --> 00:35:09.081 In fact, I was telling Brent before the show that I like the setup so much that 00:35:09.081 --> 00:35:14.901 I'm working from home more just because with an ultra-wide screen and the tiling 00:35:14.901 --> 00:35:19.341 window manager, I can achieve a lot of the productivity I feel like I get with multiple monitors. 00:35:20.001 --> 00:35:23.401 I don't think it's a one-to-one, but it's pretty close. 00:35:24.861 --> 00:35:29.461 And it's great for work and it's great for gaming because I have GameScope and 00:35:29.461 --> 00:35:30.421 GameMode and all that stuff. 00:35:30.481 --> 00:35:33.361 So when you launch games, it's a full, ready-to-go gaming system. 00:35:33.901 --> 00:35:38.981 And when you want to work, it's really nice. and I've got key combinations that 00:35:38.981 --> 00:35:42.321 launch groups of applications and position them where I need them and all of it. 00:35:42.421 --> 00:35:46.221 It's just, I've been very happy. And I think it's going to be hard to go back 00:35:46.221 --> 00:35:47.741 to a non-tiling workflow. 00:35:48.001 --> 00:35:49.181 Well, why do you need to? 00:35:49.361 --> 00:35:54.221 I don't know. I don't know why you ever would. I don't know why you ever would. Okay, Wes Payne. 00:35:55.941 --> 00:35:57.661 I might be ready to try. 00:35:58.101 --> 00:36:02.101 No way, really? You got around WebGTK that quick? You stripped her down, didn't you? 00:36:02.521 --> 00:36:07.001 I did. I did notice you have a few a bit of duplication in here that. 00:36:07.001 --> 00:36:07.681 Is the old config. 00:36:07.681 --> 00:36:09.101 Yes because. 00:36:09.101 --> 00:36:10.861 I did actually go through and remove some of the dupes. 00:36:10.861 --> 00:36:14.481 Because I was like why do I have to remove element a couple of different times 00:36:14.481 --> 00:36:19.061 yeah that's me you had some old plasma 5 packages that had to get removed yeah. 00:36:19.061 --> 00:36:20.421 That is the old I'm sorry, 00:36:23.077 --> 00:36:29.137 No, I need what I know. No, this is whole. I wanted him to review what I got wrong. 00:36:29.377 --> 00:36:33.617 And problem is, is that I do kind of like batch commits. 00:36:34.417 --> 00:36:37.177 So I've changed a lot of things. And then I do one commit. And I just try to 00:36:37.177 --> 00:36:38.257 put all my changes in that commit. 00:36:39.197 --> 00:36:41.017 Because otherwise, I'd be committing stuff all the time. 00:36:41.717 --> 00:36:46.737 Well, Chris, there's a good way to use Git and a less good way to use Git. Just saying. 00:36:47.317 --> 00:36:47.957 Tell me more. 00:36:48.857 --> 00:36:50.297 Or Wes will tell you after the show. 00:36:50.377 --> 00:36:54.377 Am I using it wrong? Am I getting wrong, boys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 00:36:54.957 --> 00:36:58.157 That you're getting at all is a huge success. So please don't stop. 00:36:59.877 --> 00:37:04.297 Speaking of Git, we thought it'd be fun to kind of what Wes is doing with my 00:37:04.297 --> 00:37:05.817 Hypervibe config right now. 00:37:06.477 --> 00:37:09.677 Let's do for anybody. I wonder if we couldn't even make an episode out of it. 00:37:09.757 --> 00:37:13.397 So we want, once again, we're putting the call out for you to send us your configs. 00:37:13.537 --> 00:37:17.637 But we want to do it a little differently this time. We'll take a look at them. 00:37:18.237 --> 00:37:21.697 We'll call out what you got good. I love that part. We'll even call out if we're 00:37:21.697 --> 00:37:22.717 copying anything you've got. 00:37:22.997 --> 00:37:26.377 And we'll call out the bad. So it's like, you know, it's all out there. 00:37:27.057 --> 00:37:30.837 And we may suggest a few improvements. And we want to be able to actually commit 00:37:30.837 --> 00:37:34.817 those improvements back. So we're going to put a link in the show notes for people to submit. 00:37:35.037 --> 00:37:37.377 Have we decided the best way for them to send it to us? 00:37:38.077 --> 00:37:41.017 I think however they, you know, send a boost email. 00:37:41.517 --> 00:37:44.777 No, no. I mean, like, we need it somewhere where we can get it. 00:37:44.797 --> 00:37:46.537 I think we'll just have to fork as we go. 00:37:46.817 --> 00:37:49.917 Okay. So just put it somewhere where you can link it to us. So send it in as 00:37:49.917 --> 00:37:53.437 a boost or send an email and link it to us, and then we'll grab it. 00:37:53.957 --> 00:37:57.037 That'll work. That'll work. And we want your Nix configs. 00:37:57.117 --> 00:38:00.137 And then maybe we'll put together like a list of the ones that we receive or 00:38:00.137 --> 00:38:01.757 something and then link out to them. 00:38:01.817 --> 00:38:04.657 Is there any other configs we want people to send in besides Nix configs that 00:38:04.657 --> 00:38:07.697 we want to look at? I mean, I just love config setups. 00:38:08.977 --> 00:38:10.657 Sweet Ansible setups. That's fine, too. 00:38:10.737 --> 00:38:16.157 I'd be down for that. Yeah. So boost them in with a link or email them in so we can take a look. 00:38:17.817 --> 00:38:19.297 and tell you what we think of them. 00:38:19.477 --> 00:38:22.577 You know, if you got like a real dope Docker composed yam, we'll send that in. 00:38:22.857 --> 00:38:24.657 Apparently we got a Hyperland guy here. 00:38:25.117 --> 00:38:28.317 Hey-o. Okay, West Payne. So we're going to let you keep going. 00:38:28.757 --> 00:38:30.597 We'll give you through the next segment. 00:38:31.437 --> 00:38:35.157 We're going into the last half of the show. So you've got a little bit over there. 00:38:36.717 --> 00:38:41.077 We'll see how it goes. So ladies and gentlemen, stand by why West Payne tries 00:38:41.077 --> 00:38:45.557 to build Hypervibe on a laptop that's old and slow. yeah. 00:38:45.557 --> 00:38:50.057 We do have we are doing a little bit of finishing building hyperland so there's that going on. 00:38:50.057 --> 00:38:53.037 Uh-huh yeah so that's always it's always pulling in the absolute latest 00:38:53.037 --> 00:38:58.537 i it's one of the funny things actually was i knew about the new gesture stuff 00:38:58.537 --> 00:39:02.777 before uh the hyperland announcement of the new release because they broke in 00:39:02.777 --> 00:39:07.157 my config because i'm running i'm running raw man and so i i was fixing stuff 00:39:07.157 --> 00:39:11.897 in line as as uh they were getting published to the hyperland repo okay, 00:39:13.817 --> 00:39:14.957 Keep going, Wes Payne. 00:39:21.083 --> 00:39:24.563 Unraid.net slash unplugged. Go unleash your hardware. 00:39:24.803 --> 00:39:29.423 Unraid is a powerful, easy to use NAS operating system for those of you that 00:39:29.423 --> 00:39:34.323 want control, flexibility, and efficiency in managing your own data. 00:39:34.503 --> 00:39:37.643 What you got in the closet is going to work with Unraid. It allows you to mix 00:39:37.643 --> 00:39:38.963 and match drives of any size. 00:39:39.103 --> 00:39:43.383 You can build what you want with no restrictions. There's also built-in support 00:39:43.383 --> 00:39:48.263 for things like tail scale and one-click remote access and easy hardware acceleration 00:39:48.263 --> 00:39:54.143 and a ginormous community app store that has everything in there from AlbiHub 00:39:54.143 --> 00:39:56.943 to the latest RAR series of things. 00:39:57.163 --> 00:40:00.263 And if you know what I mean, you know what I mean. Now, I got a note from Alan 00:40:00.263 --> 00:40:04.123 in Texas. He says, in your latest read, you mentioned you wanted to hear people 00:40:04.123 --> 00:40:05.023 with their Unraid setups. 00:40:05.163 --> 00:40:11.563 Well, I am running Unraid on a Dell PowerEdge R730XD as my home server. 00:40:12.123 --> 00:40:15.703 It's running a couple of VMs for Home Assistant, PFSense, and a Minecraft server 00:40:15.703 --> 00:40:18.743 on Ubuntu, and a couple of Linux distros to play around with. 00:40:19.163 --> 00:40:22.683 There are also several containers for Image, Jellyfin, Nextcloud, 00:40:22.843 --> 00:40:26.723 Pinchflat, Matrix, Minifold, Vault Warden, and more. 00:40:26.903 --> 00:40:30.783 I've been busy with work, so it needs some love. I'm not really sure if that's 00:40:30.783 --> 00:40:33.923 worth sharing, but if you guys want to pull the trigger on Linux Unplugged Homelab 00:40:33.923 --> 00:40:38.183 Extreme Makeover Podcast, I could be a prime candidate. I would love to do that, Alan. 00:40:38.763 --> 00:40:43.123 Thank you for sending that note in about your Unraid setup. I love hearing what people use it for. 00:40:43.503 --> 00:40:46.083 I'm going to check out Minifold. I know everything on that list. 00:40:46.143 --> 00:40:47.683 I'm not sure if I'm familiar with Minifold. 00:40:47.983 --> 00:40:51.803 I might check that out after the show. So go get set up with Unraid and then 00:40:51.803 --> 00:40:53.923 write in and tell me what you've built, what you're running. 00:40:54.083 --> 00:40:55.283 Could be huge, could be small. 00:40:55.563 --> 00:40:57.903 What really matters is that it makes a difference for you. 00:40:58.263 --> 00:41:02.763 Get started. Support the show. Try it for 30 days for free. Unraid's fantastic. 00:41:02.923 --> 00:41:05.043 Built on modern Linux. You're going to love it. 00:41:05.803 --> 00:41:11.003 Unraid.net slash unplugged. That's unrayed.net slash unplugged. 00:41:14.123 --> 00:41:18.423 Well, this week we want to do a big shout out to core contributor Pierre G. 00:41:18.743 --> 00:41:22.103 Thank you very much for joining the core contributor team and the party. 00:41:22.843 --> 00:41:27.103 Yay! I hope you get the bootleg this week. Check it out. Let us know what you think. 00:41:28.343 --> 00:41:32.743 At Brantley, we had a bunch of people take advantage of the fake boost link 00:41:32.743 --> 00:41:36.403 to support the Linux Fest trip to Texas. 00:41:36.403 --> 00:41:38.983 Can you remind, what the heck is a fake boost? 00:41:39.583 --> 00:41:45.503 Yeah, so I created a page that lets you use PayPal, Venmo, on-chain, or Lightning. 00:41:46.503 --> 00:41:49.263 And the reason why I'm calling it, and I'm calling it teasingly a fake boost, 00:41:49.423 --> 00:41:54.883 because you can put your name or a username, a handle, and a message in there, like a boost. 00:41:55.283 --> 00:41:59.803 It doesn't actually use the boost payments system, but it kind of replicates 00:41:59.803 --> 00:42:05.143 the experience of who you are, amount, and message. So it can give you. 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:10.240 Um, and so Jordan Bravo took advantage of it with 10,000 sats. 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.580 He says, have some sats for the Texas Linux fest. 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.600 I also hope you consider attending self next year. Since I live in Georgia, 00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:19.680 self is the only Linux conference I can reasonably travel. Oh yeah. 00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:20.420 Yeah. It makes sense. 00:42:20.580 --> 00:42:23.640 We get that one. Do you want to take the next one, Mr. Payne? 00:42:23.740 --> 00:42:24.760 I know you're in the middle over there. 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:26.280 Let me, I got to scroll up. 00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.500 Oh yeah. I know. Brad and I could do it too. If you got a build to take it. 00:42:29.560 --> 00:42:30.960 I know you're in the middle of that. 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.100 Matt M. Fake Bootson with 250 USD. 00:42:35.820 --> 00:42:38.440 Yes. thank you sir i think that deserves a baller. 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:44.060 Yeah it's not a fake boost at all that's some value thank you man i've been 00:42:44.060 --> 00:42:47.460 listening and watching since the linux action show all right and i'm hopeful 00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:49.660 for at least another 12 years of linux. 00:42:49.660 --> 00:42:53.520 Unplugged yeah i love it yeah hopefully. 00:42:53.520 --> 00:42:56.300 This will help with part of the hotel cost thanks to the whole team for all 00:42:56.300 --> 00:42:58.880 your dedication and hard work oh well thank you thank. 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:03.160 You by hotel i think he means you know the bus we're all gonna just pile in 00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:06.760 right oh yeah isn't that the plan that's the whole that was the long-term plan 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:14.720 wasn't it uh-huh we got us a blender cat sending in a little message with a fake boost of 105 usds. 00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.740 Not bad at all thank you sir. 00:43:18.740 --> 00:43:24.420 Blender cat says i hope to see you all at texas linux fest okay. 00:43:24.420 --> 00:43:25.640 Blender cat you got to come up and 00:43:25.640 --> 00:43:29.080 you got to identify yourself you got to introduce yourself Splendor cat. 00:43:29.080 --> 00:43:33.020 Now. Yeah, please. Or wear a shirt or something. 00:43:33.040 --> 00:43:35.140 I will accept a pantomime as well. 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.200 Okay. Matt F. came in with $50 and said, get some great barbecue. 00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:43.100 Thank you, Matt F. Appreciate that. 00:43:43.340 --> 00:43:45.200 Can I just say, do not blend cats. Thank you. 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:46.100 Yeah, okay. 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.980 Crash Master comes in with $50. 00:43:49.380 --> 00:43:50.320 Hey, Crash Master. 00:43:51.520 --> 00:43:55.780 For Texas Linux Fest, get some good recipes from members in Austin for the lunch. 00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.640 Good call. Good call. 00:43:57.640 --> 00:44:01.480 Hey, wait, you can't call it that. Well, Vince P boosted in. 00:44:01.560 --> 00:44:04.980 Oh, no, that's not a boost. It's a fake boost. 200 USDs. 00:44:05.300 --> 00:44:05.940 Hey, 200. 00:44:09.651 --> 00:44:10.391 Wow, thank you, Vince. 00:44:10.571 --> 00:44:13.171 Vince says, cheers, boys, and enjoy the fest. 00:44:13.771 --> 00:44:16.711 Thank you. D came in with $150. 00:44:22.511 --> 00:44:25.191 D says, here's some Fiat fun for the meat coma. 00:44:26.031 --> 00:44:27.331 Much required. Thank you. 00:44:28.751 --> 00:44:34.131 Phil J comes in with a fiver. Enjoy the trip, guys. Listener since 2020. 00:44:34.291 --> 00:44:34.511 All right. 00:44:34.511 --> 00:44:35.691 Started with self-hosted. 00:44:35.791 --> 00:44:35.971 Yeah. 00:44:36.471 --> 00:44:39.231 All the best to the JB team. Looking forward to hearing your coverage. 00:44:39.231 --> 00:44:40.771 Cheers from Switzerland. 00:44:41.111 --> 00:44:41.931 Thank you, Phil. 00:44:42.211 --> 00:44:42.631 Wonderful. 00:44:43.031 --> 00:44:44.691 We will do you proud. 00:44:45.131 --> 00:44:49.271 I've never heard of this guy. Carl George, a.k.a. Mr. Pocket Meat, 00:44:50.031 --> 00:44:51.971 fake boosted in a little 50. 00:44:53.091 --> 00:44:53.531 Nice. 00:44:54.011 --> 00:44:55.671 50 for the group. This isn't looking great. 00:44:55.811 --> 00:44:58.031 It says nothing but barbecue. That's how you know it's Carl. 00:44:58.091 --> 00:44:59.451 Three letters. BBQ. 00:44:59.731 --> 00:45:00.371 Barbecue, yeah. 00:45:00.831 --> 00:45:02.231 I think this counts as pocket meat. 00:45:03.571 --> 00:45:04.971 Uh-oh, Wes Payne. What is it? 00:45:05.971 --> 00:45:07.711 Failed to start display manager. 00:45:08.251 --> 00:45:09.271 You don't need that. 00:45:10.671 --> 00:45:15.091 What? Why? It is, it may be geared up for- We started our. 00:45:15.091 --> 00:45:16.491 Power top tuning, so that's good. 00:45:16.491 --> 00:45:20.711 I guess all my systems are AMD. Maybe that's, hmm. Oh, that's a bummer. 00:45:21.231 --> 00:45:24.851 That's a bummer. The Hypervibe fail. Well, you could keep poking at it, I suppose. 00:45:25.911 --> 00:45:28.811 I'll take Noah here. Noah came in with $5. 00:45:30.391 --> 00:45:32.691 Thanks for all the great content over the years. Safe travels. 00:45:32.931 --> 00:45:33.931 Thank you, Noah. Appreciate it. 00:45:33.991 --> 00:45:38.471 Oh, good. Postgres is running, so that worked. oh good yeah it's ready to run 00:45:38.471 --> 00:45:40.391 as a server not so much as a desktop. 00:45:42.371 --> 00:45:43.311 Isn't that the intention. 00:45:43.311 --> 00:45:46.131 Oh man Donnie came in with $200, 00:45:51.565 --> 00:45:54.525 Keep up the great work and event coverage. Thanks for setting up this payment 00:45:54.525 --> 00:45:55.865 method for the lazy folks like me. 00:45:56.745 --> 00:45:58.165 Thanks, Donnie. We still love you. 00:45:58.545 --> 00:45:59.525 Yeah, I appreciate it. 00:45:59.765 --> 00:46:04.165 Well, Brandon R. sent us one of those fake bees of 20 US dollars. 00:46:05.365 --> 00:46:05.805 Nice. 00:46:06.285 --> 00:46:08.585 Have fun in Texas and enjoy the barbecue. 00:46:09.065 --> 00:46:12.205 We will. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. 00:46:12.845 --> 00:46:16.625 Joseph B. came in with 20 bucks. Finally, I can send some money without having 00:46:16.625 --> 00:46:18.825 to buy Bitcoin. I bet. Yeah. 00:46:19.685 --> 00:46:21.985 I thought that might be appealing to some of you out there. 00:46:22.245 --> 00:46:23.245 We still love you. 00:46:23.545 --> 00:46:24.205 Thank you, Joseph. 00:46:25.325 --> 00:46:27.585 Well, Sunbake sent us 40 US dollars. 00:46:28.425 --> 00:46:28.865 Nice. 00:46:29.705 --> 00:46:35.385 Some for the trip. Here's some help from the other WA, Western Australia. 00:46:35.805 --> 00:46:39.465 We're three times bigger than Texas, but have many times less Linux vests. 00:46:39.785 --> 00:46:41.245 Looking forward to hearing all about it. 00:46:41.625 --> 00:46:45.765 Can I just say how awesome the international support is to get us to go cover a Texas Linux event? 00:46:45.865 --> 00:46:46.225 No kidding. 00:46:46.225 --> 00:46:49.665 I really, really, really appreciate that. Thank you, Sunbaked. 00:46:50.305 --> 00:46:52.085 David H. comes in with $100. 00:46:52.545 --> 00:46:53.205 All right. 00:46:54.205 --> 00:46:57.545 I've gotten much more than this amount in value from you folks and look forward 00:46:57.545 --> 00:47:02.005 to the continued great work. I was also lucky to attend the 600 meetup sometime ago. 00:47:02.325 --> 00:47:04.445 Have a great trip, David, in Burlington. 00:47:04.725 --> 00:47:05.905 Well, thank you, David. 00:47:06.245 --> 00:47:07.905 From around the world to right around the corner. 00:47:08.065 --> 00:47:13.105 Yeah, really. No kidding. All right. So our total of fake booths so far, 00:47:13.105 --> 00:47:19.205 this is the grand total for the last two weeks, is $1,245. 00:47:20.225 --> 00:47:23.205 Hmm. That's like the combination I have on my luggage. 00:47:24.325 --> 00:47:29.205 You're right. I didn't even notice that. That's pretty interesting. Pretty close. 00:47:29.785 --> 00:47:35.425 That is darn near almost exactly in the range of what the VRBO is probably going to cost us. 00:47:35.585 --> 00:47:40.905 We found some that are probably about in the 10 to 15 minute range drive. I will warn you boys. 00:47:41.745 --> 00:47:45.085 It is nothing fancy. so i'm staying. 00:47:45.085 --> 00:47:46.145 In the van is that what you're saying. 00:47:46.145 --> 00:47:49.225 Maybe i mean it's it's serviceable it's got bedrooms 00:47:49.225 --> 00:47:52.105 um but it's not but we're all we need we're going for 00:47:52.105 --> 00:47:56.225 budget and with this we're going to be able to secure the vrbo weeks before 00:47:56.225 --> 00:48:00.465 we head down so thank you everyone that is a major cost that has been solved 00:48:00.465 --> 00:48:04.885 uh we still have gas we have hotel on the way down and probably on the way back 00:48:04.885 --> 00:48:08.785 and any meetup related costs that we are still fundraising for but this is a 00:48:08.785 --> 00:48:10.325 huge milestone and for the trip support, 00:48:10.445 --> 00:48:13.325 we at least know we can secure a place to land. 00:48:13.685 --> 00:48:16.545 If we can knock out a few more of those expenses with the boost, 00:48:16.785 --> 00:48:20.945 that would be fantastic, but we really appreciate everybody that sent in the fake boost. 00:48:21.085 --> 00:48:23.545 If you want to do that, we still have the links in the show notes. 00:48:23.725 --> 00:48:27.845 It will still be available. It automatically gets tagged for Texas Linux Fest, 00:48:27.885 --> 00:48:30.905 and you get to put your name and a message on it. 00:48:31.025 --> 00:48:34.645 Thank you, everybody, who sent in a fake boost, and now let's get to the boost. 00:48:39.625 --> 00:48:47.905 And how about this? Adversary 17 is our baller booster this week with 256,000 sets. 00:48:48.145 --> 00:48:48.765 Wow. 00:48:59.553 --> 00:49:03.993 Adversaries write sats for the Texas trip. Well, thank you, adversaries. 00:49:04.133 --> 00:49:05.153 We really appreciate that. 00:49:05.353 --> 00:49:13.193 That is a fantastic boost, and that is going right to the trip budget. To Texas we go, boys. 00:49:14.233 --> 00:49:17.733 I like that you have stuff in here that, I don't know if you were yelling at 00:49:17.733 --> 00:49:23.733 the machine or what, but it has stuff, and it just says, preserving your existing config in all caps. 00:49:25.953 --> 00:49:29.113 I had to make it clear. I had to make it really clear. 00:49:31.913 --> 00:49:40.593 Well KRHill94 boosted in real clear With a hundred thousand cents Short and 00:49:40.593 --> 00:49:46.373 sweet For Texas Linux Fest Heck yeah We appreciate it Thank. 00:49:46.373 --> 00:49:50.353 You 94 Really appreciate that That's great Right to the fund it goes. 00:49:51.253 --> 00:49:57.353 Well we got a Padre here Sending in 71,282 Satoshis Okie dokie, 00:50:02.213 --> 00:50:06.373 here is a linux fast boost from a first-time booster hey. 00:50:06.373 --> 00:50:10.273 Oh thank you for getting it all set up appreciate that effort too. 00:50:10.273 --> 00:50:14.673 I started my dev journey on the lamp stack but life took a different direction 00:50:14.673 --> 00:50:21.033 i became a catholic priest about 20 years ago i came across jb by way of self-hosted 00:50:21.033 --> 00:50:26.913 which gave me an outlet to reignite my love of devops so naturally now i run 00:50:26.913 --> 00:50:30.253 a ramshackle home lab on half a dozen old PCs and Macs. 00:50:30.373 --> 00:50:34.933 Half of my church's IT needs are on top of NixOS, thanks to Chris and the Badger. 00:50:35.113 --> 00:50:39.353 I don't spend a lot of time on Linux, but I do love the show and the network. 00:50:39.713 --> 00:50:44.973 Prayers for a safe journey to Texas Linux Fest and thanks for the hard work on that old JB. 00:50:45.933 --> 00:50:50.773 P.S. The total of these boots should be a zip code, but only time will tell. 00:50:51.013 --> 00:50:55.953 Thank you, Padre. That is a great boost. I love to hear that NixOS has creeped 00:50:55.953 --> 00:50:58.993 in and brace yourself Wes because actually, 00:51:04.289 --> 00:51:08.709 All right, so this is the total of this boost should be a zip code, 00:51:08.829 --> 00:51:12.249 but only time will tell. What does that mean? 00:51:12.469 --> 00:51:14.089 I feel like it's a riddle. 00:51:14.649 --> 00:51:17.509 All right, and then you just spin the map around, you put your lucky finger 00:51:17.509 --> 00:51:21.329 down, and you land on Tallulah, Louisiana. 00:51:21.929 --> 00:51:23.849 Louisiana? Tallulah? 00:51:24.369 --> 00:51:28.869 I don't know if that's if I'm saying it right, but T-A-L-L-U-L-A-H. 00:51:28.989 --> 00:51:29.829 That's fantastic. 00:51:30.389 --> 00:51:31.729 In Madison Parish. 00:51:31.889 --> 00:51:33.789 Will I be driving through there to get to Texas? 00:51:34.369 --> 00:51:37.849 I don't know. Take a look at the map, Brent. We just had it out. 00:51:38.029 --> 00:51:40.949 Can you unfold it a bit more? You're kind of hiding the section I need. 00:51:41.369 --> 00:51:44.169 We were going to ask you what your route was, but you're asking us. 00:51:44.209 --> 00:51:45.769 I know. This is not how this works. 00:51:46.469 --> 00:51:48.429 Boosting what you think my route should be. Thank you. 00:51:49.309 --> 00:51:53.889 He doesn't know. Biggles knows. He came in with 50,000 sats. 00:51:56.109 --> 00:51:59.189 Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the Texas Linux Fest coverage. 00:51:59.529 --> 00:52:04.189 Here is my small contribution. Not small at all. We really appreciate any value people can contribute. 00:52:05.729 --> 00:52:08.949 it is extremely humbling and, 00:52:09.889 --> 00:52:12.729 comforting isn't the right word but to know 00:52:12.729 --> 00:52:16.609 that the Linux audience that chooses to listen to our podcast at least has our 00:52:16.609 --> 00:52:20.049 back you know like there's a community behind us we're going to go down there 00:52:20.049 --> 00:52:22.889 and we've been doing this for a long time so you know we're going to deliver 00:52:22.889 --> 00:52:26.109 right you know we're going to do it you know we're going to try to have a good 00:52:26.109 --> 00:52:29.929 time too and we're going to try to get you great coverage and come back with a solid episode 00:52:30.349 --> 00:52:34.789 so any amount people can contribute is really appreciated thank you Thank you for the boost pickles. 00:52:35.609 --> 00:52:39.929 Chlorophore comes in with 47,180 sats. 00:52:43.649 --> 00:52:49.649 This is a live zip code boost Westpain. So you're doing double duty right now. 00:52:52.489 --> 00:52:58.649 He said, I agree. I hadn't heard one for a while. So here is a zip code boost. It's 47180. 00:52:59.729 --> 00:53:06.449 Oh, here comes the map again. Going from hyperbuild to map Like a machine Is. 00:53:06.449 --> 00:53:07.269 That a hypermap? 00:53:08.329 --> 00:53:11.789 Okay, what do we got here? We got 50,000? 00:53:12.129 --> 00:53:16.389 4-7-1-8-0 4-7-1-8-0 Oh, I see. 00:53:16.529 --> 00:53:18.289 I was one back Yeah, there we go, 00:53:19.457 --> 00:53:21.257 That explains why I was in the water. 00:53:21.397 --> 00:53:24.917 Yeah, you're way off on the map. That's right. I think you got to go over there. There you go. 00:53:25.777 --> 00:53:26.957 Not next to the oil rig. 00:53:27.097 --> 00:53:27.457 Ah, careful. 00:53:27.677 --> 00:53:30.037 It might be metric too, Wes, just in case. 00:53:30.457 --> 00:53:34.797 Ooh, I hope not. Metric zip codes are hard. You got to do the conversion. 00:53:35.097 --> 00:53:35.877 Is it in progress? 00:53:36.477 --> 00:53:40.337 I think there's a hint here. It is, yeah. The pause. What is this last bit here, 00:53:40.417 --> 00:53:42.477 Brent? You need to read that. The pause. 00:53:43.337 --> 00:53:46.797 I would prefer if you read it, but you know, if you really need me to. You sure? 00:53:46.837 --> 00:53:47.797 Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. 00:53:50.597 --> 00:53:56.717 Pozdrowinia poloski this is i think polish i have a teeny tiny bit in my old 00:53:56.717 --> 00:54:00.057 roots but i i don't got the language i apologize for everything i just did. 00:54:04.457 --> 00:54:07.017 How's the zip code uh search going over there west not so good yeah. 00:54:08.397 --> 00:54:11.957 There is a 47-180. 00:54:11.957 --> 00:54:14.917 In poland oh okay i think. 00:54:14.917 --> 00:54:15.557 I think you're i. 00:54:15.557 --> 00:54:17.397 Don't know if this is right though I. 00:54:17.397 --> 00:54:20.797 Think you're over the target, at least. Thank you. Appreciate it, 00:54:20.877 --> 00:54:22.677 Chlorophore. You've kind of stumped us, but I think we're close. 00:54:22.837 --> 00:54:25.217 Yeah, I'm going to have to do some more research and maybe get a bigger map. 00:54:25.757 --> 00:54:29.497 Damn, comes in with 43,100 sats. 00:54:30.317 --> 00:54:36.517 Thank you. First time booster. Yes. Thank you. Long time party member. 00:54:36.717 --> 00:54:37.577 Oh, my goodness. Thank you. 00:54:38.777 --> 00:54:44.037 I use Linux every day as a visual effects artist working mostly on TV commercials. What? 00:54:44.197 --> 00:54:44.497 Neat. 00:54:44.937 --> 00:54:48.797 We need to know more about this. I got my start by accidentally wiping the family 00:54:48.797 --> 00:54:51.157 PC with RHEL 2.1 in high school been. 00:54:51.157 --> 00:54:52.857 There doesn't that happen to everyone. 00:54:52.857 --> 00:54:58.517 Man when I screwed up the family PC dad was so mad he says thanks to JBI almost 00:54:58.517 --> 00:55:04.497 all my installs are now Nix OS I hope this gets a tank of gas for the Texas Linux Fest thank you sir, 00:55:04.957 --> 00:55:09.977 I'd love to know more about using Linux for the visual effects stuff even just 00:55:09.977 --> 00:55:14.957 software distros what works what doesn't work that's fascinating really appreciate 00:55:14.957 --> 00:55:17.737 the boost thank you for taking the time to get that all plumbed up. 00:55:17.737 --> 00:55:22.177 Well tomato or maybe it's tomato sends in 28 000 sets. 00:55:24.097 --> 00:55:25.877 There you go uh. 00:55:25.877 --> 00:55:29.497 This might be a haiku but i don't know my poems so here we go i 00:55:29.497 --> 00:55:32.577 nodes at night are big and bright deep in 00:55:32.577 --> 00:55:35.817 the heart of linux the h top sky is wide 00:55:35.817 --> 00:55:43.157 and high deep in the heart of linux fedora's whale along the trail deep in that 00:55:43.157 --> 00:55:49.537 heart of linux the nixies rush around the brush deep in the heart of linux these 00:55:49.537 --> 00:55:54.377 are some sats to help you with your trip to that old 28th state yeehaw. 00:55:54.377 --> 00:56:07.257 I like that thank you very much tomato nice to hear from you exocena comes in with 25 000 sats, 00:56:10.914 --> 00:56:15.014 Almost 10 months since my last booth. Sorry about that. But I have perfected 00:56:15.014 --> 00:56:18.254 my NextCloud. He calls it my NextCloud. 00:56:19.454 --> 00:56:23.934 With one command in the terminal, you can create a ready-to-boot SD card image 00:56:23.934 --> 00:56:30.234 for a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 with NixOS and NextCloud ready to go. 00:56:30.554 --> 00:56:35.834 Automatic mounting of USB devices and NextCloud external storage and peer-to-peer 00:56:35.834 --> 00:56:37.134 remote connectivity enabled. 00:56:37.274 --> 00:56:43.774 You can check it out on my GitHub. up we'll put a link it is a jjack 13 or jj 00:56:43.774 --> 00:56:46.134 13 slash nix club we'll put a link in the show notes 00:56:46.574 --> 00:56:49.894 the direct p2p connection with no firewall or no ports exposed 00:56:49.894 --> 00:56:54.914 it'll work behind your net all you have to do is just scan a qr code you can 00:56:54.914 --> 00:56:59.014 also install it on your existing nix system he has a link for that too he says 00:56:59.014 --> 00:57:02.894 i also have a pr pending for emerging nix packages when i first tried it blew 00:57:02.894 --> 00:57:09.034 my mind you gotta give it a try thanks for the show keep it up that is an awesome project It. 00:57:09.034 --> 00:57:12.774 Looks like these peer-to-peer tunnels are from a project called Wholesale. 00:57:12.914 --> 00:57:18.234 Wholesale.io looks completely open source, free for some P2P good action. 00:57:18.514 --> 00:57:19.254 I should give this a look. 00:57:19.634 --> 00:57:22.474 Thanks for letting us know, and thank you for the boost. We'll put those links 00:57:22.474 --> 00:57:24.394 in the show notes if people want to check them out. 00:57:25.614 --> 00:57:27.994 Augustine boosts in with 20,000 sets. 00:57:28.154 --> 00:57:28.554 Hey-o! 00:57:31.994 --> 00:57:36.434 My summer vacay started with the mother-in-law's dog sitting on the Ethernet 00:57:36.434 --> 00:57:39.154 cable that's plugged into the ISP's little fiber box. 00:57:39.294 --> 00:57:39.414 No. 00:57:39.574 --> 00:57:40.594 Completely wrecking it. 00:57:40.714 --> 00:57:44.234 Oh. That was bad placement, I just gotta say. 00:57:44.474 --> 00:57:49.694 So we were cut off from the outside world for two weeks. The ISP was not quick in fixing it. 00:57:49.774 --> 00:57:50.634 Oh, that's so frustrating. 00:57:50.894 --> 00:57:51.214 That's ouch, yeah. 00:57:51.214 --> 00:57:51.674 Oh, man. 00:57:52.034 --> 00:57:56.614 This, however, showed self-hosting's true colors. We could still watch shows, 00:57:56.774 --> 00:57:58.834 movies, and listen to music from Jellyfin. 00:57:58.974 --> 00:58:02.534 And I could listen to audiobooks as well as catching up on Linux Unplugged episodes 00:58:02.534 --> 00:58:04.554 that I downloaded with Audio Bookshelf. 00:58:04.654 --> 00:58:05.414 That's so great. 00:58:05.414 --> 00:58:07.954 It feels as one is cheating the system. 00:58:08.034 --> 00:58:10.154 I totally agree with that. 00:58:10.274 --> 00:58:14.094 Even though I do think this is how the system and tech and services should work. 00:58:14.194 --> 00:58:14.514 Yes. 00:58:14.714 --> 00:58:16.394 Here's some sets for the road. 00:58:16.894 --> 00:58:21.354 Thank you, Augustin. That's really great. Boy, you and I are locked in on that vibe. 00:58:21.374 --> 00:58:25.694 Let me tell you, it's so great, especially when you're offline and it's still 00:58:25.694 --> 00:58:26.894 working. It's just, whoo. 00:58:27.354 --> 00:58:31.614 It's how technology should be, but it ain't always that way. Appreciate the boost. 00:58:32.334 --> 00:58:36.954 I just want to take a moment here to pause and say that was all of our baller boosts. 00:58:37.014 --> 00:58:41.394 We haven't even gotten to the slightly less baller boosters, so thank you, everyone. 00:58:42.954 --> 00:58:47.514 Now, SatStacker7 did send in two boosts for a total of 7,000 sats. 00:58:51.428 --> 00:58:56.308 Hey, it's me, the user who pinged Wes about using Mesh Sidecar with Paperless 00:58:56.308 --> 00:58:59.388 Module and apparently triggered last week's Paperless Deep Dive. 00:58:59.708 --> 00:59:00.908 Yep, it's your fault. 00:59:01.088 --> 00:59:04.528 I am glad to hear you tried it and liked it as much as I do. 00:59:04.848 --> 00:59:10.648 I paired it with the old ScanSnap iX1500 duplex scanner and connected it over 00:59:10.648 --> 00:59:12.888 USB to the machine where Paperless is running. 00:59:13.748 --> 00:59:16.988 I can recommend the Sane project for scanning on Linux combined with the command 00:59:16.988 --> 00:59:22.788 line tool Sane Scan PDF that acts as a wrapper and lets you configure scan jobs. 00:59:23.088 --> 00:59:27.508 I've heard it works really well. I mean, ultimately, you just need to get that 00:59:27.508 --> 00:59:28.948 PDF into the consume folder. 00:59:29.208 --> 00:59:34.248 And so you can do that with any old scanner that can out. It doesn't have to 00:59:34.248 --> 00:59:36.128 be a PDF, but I think that's probably the preferred format. 00:59:36.348 --> 00:59:43.568 But what I love about this setup is with Sane PDF, All your scans go to PDF. 00:59:43.748 --> 00:59:44.668 It just produces that PDF. 00:59:44.888 --> 00:59:48.228 You could have it go scan directly to the consume folder, which is probably 00:59:48.228 --> 00:59:50.628 what SatStacker is doing, and then it just gets imported. 00:59:51.408 --> 00:59:55.808 That's pretty nice. All right, so again, that was the SnapScan IX1500 duplex scanner. 00:59:56.308 --> 00:59:58.728 Getting tips from the pro. I like it. Thank you. 00:59:58.868 --> 01:00:02.928 Yeah, I appreciate that. Okay, Groovy came in with 2,000 sats. 01:00:04.168 --> 01:00:07.328 No mess is just value, which we always appreciate. Thank you very much. 01:00:07.808 --> 01:00:11.148 Poppy Boosin with 7,832 sats. 01:00:12.668 --> 01:00:17.168 Uh-oh Wes guess what zip code is a better deal I love it it's. 01:00:17.168 --> 01:00:18.008 Just such a good deal. 01:00:18.008 --> 01:00:19.248 It is such a great deal, 01:00:22.568 --> 01:00:27.888 this is we appreciate the zip code boost we're making Wes work today he is earning 01:00:27.888 --> 01:00:30.808 his split that is for sure okay so we got 7. 01:00:30.968 --> 01:00:37.588 8, 3, 2 but first multiply by 11 so naturally Chris as you know that's 86,152. 01:00:37.588 --> 01:00:44.528 But then you need to add 1 for the zip code okay Sure we do I love it, 01:00:46.288 --> 01:00:49.128 Let's use parenthesis I don't mind holding the corner if you want me to hold 01:00:49.128 --> 01:00:56.988 on to that I know it's big Just hold it still Wes I don't know why I have to move it around so much. 01:01:00.468 --> 01:01:06.328 Alright do I got this right 7, 8, 3, 2 multiplied by 11 Plus 1 So is that 86. 01:01:06.328 --> 01:01:08.548 153 That's my math. 01:01:14.426 --> 01:01:14.966 There you go. 01:01:15.346 --> 01:01:18.166 Okay, well, let me double check here. We got a couple of leads. 01:01:18.486 --> 01:01:23.206 Oh, my God. With the math and all. Okay, what you got for me, Wes? 01:01:23.286 --> 01:01:26.606 What you got for me? Maybe this is a postal code in Germany? 01:01:27.266 --> 01:01:29.386 Augsburg? A city in the state of Bavaria. 01:01:29.706 --> 01:01:30.566 Oh, nice. 01:01:30.566 --> 01:01:34.606 That's going to be my official map guess this time around for 86153. 01:01:34.806 --> 01:01:37.446 Thanks, Pappy. Let us know if we got it right. That's great. 01:01:39.126 --> 01:01:43.446 Doornail7887 is here with 4,444 stats. That's a big duck. 01:01:44.846 --> 01:01:48.726 Texas Linux Fest, baby. Also, would you mind doing a quick tutorial on setting 01:01:48.726 --> 01:01:50.206 up a small matrix server again? 01:01:50.466 --> 01:01:54.886 I want to join my matrix, but of course, I want to do it the hard way and use 01:01:54.886 --> 01:01:56.226 my own instead of someone else's. 01:01:56.406 --> 01:02:00.546 What is the best way to do this if we don't want to make it publicly routable? 01:02:00.666 --> 01:02:04.666 Is this possible, or does it need to be online for many use cases, for his use cases? 01:02:05.026 --> 01:02:09.146 Well, you probably do need to be online in order to, what do they call it, Wes, when you bridge? 01:02:09.226 --> 01:02:10.206 Talk to other people. 01:02:12.666 --> 01:02:13.906 There's like a terminology, though. 01:02:13.906 --> 01:02:14.246 Federation. 01:02:14.426 --> 01:02:17.246 Yeah, when you federate, thank you, when you federate. So you will want it online, 01:02:17.386 --> 01:02:18.886 but there's a lot of ways you can do that. 01:02:19.546 --> 01:02:23.026 Honestly, I think home matrix servers are a really good idea if you're up for 01:02:23.026 --> 01:02:26.546 the config, which is a bit of an uphill climb, but there's a couple of options 01:02:26.546 --> 01:02:28.986 out there, the Ansible route being probably the most popular. 01:02:29.446 --> 01:02:32.486 You can throw it on a VPS, a pretty cheap one for just a handful of users, 01:02:32.546 --> 01:02:34.206 and that might be the way to do it. 01:02:34.486 --> 01:02:36.166 And I think that's one of the brilliant things about Matrix. 01:02:36.246 --> 01:02:38.486 We shouldn't all be reliant on matrix.org. 01:02:38.946 --> 01:02:42.546 We are looking into Matrix-in-a-box type solutions to recommend to people, 01:02:42.546 --> 01:02:45.346 So if anybody out there has some suggestions, obviously we are aware of the 01:02:45.346 --> 01:02:49.006 Ansible solution, but that might be a bit of a lift for some folks. 01:02:49.566 --> 01:02:52.386 So boost in if you, uh, if you have any suggestions for that. 01:02:52.866 --> 01:02:55.966 Well, Jordan Bravo sends in a good old row of ducks. 01:02:57.386 --> 01:02:57.786 Yay. 01:02:58.686 --> 01:03:03.166 Uh, I thought this was an automated message, but it's not. It says no message, just value. 01:03:03.546 --> 01:03:10.386 Always appreciate that. Hey, guess who's back? Aaron's here with 3,333 sats. 01:03:12.600 --> 01:03:16.440 I just spent six hours troubleshooting why my games were running at two frames 01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.380 per second after updating to the NVIDIA driver 580 on Kubuntu. 01:03:20.720 --> 01:03:25.180 Turns out, you also need to update the Flatpak NVIDIA components to match the driver version. 01:03:25.680 --> 01:03:29.540 Insert facepalm here. So, if any other noobs like me are running into the same 01:03:29.540 --> 01:03:33.380 problem and have Steam installed through Flatpak, make sure you're running Flatpak 01:03:33.380 --> 01:03:36.000 update. You can do that on the command line, just Flatpak update, 01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.340 if you've installed the new NVIDIA driver recently. 01:03:38.580 --> 01:03:41.040 I'm kind of feeling like Chuck E. Cheese out here, boys. 01:03:43.900 --> 01:03:50.320 Hey, Aaron, you got it working, though. That is, there are multiple layers there. It's a good tip. 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.140 That's also, yeah, great PSA. Thank you. 01:03:54.360 --> 01:04:00.200 Hey, and even in the thanks today, we got a Texas boost from MJVC with a little 01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:02.100 tiny binary boost, 1-0-1-0. 01:04:02.240 --> 01:04:02.680 Awesome. 01:04:03.080 --> 01:04:03.880 Sats for the trip. 01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:07.080 Thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Also, stream sats as you listen. 01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:13.220 25 of you did that, and collectively, You stacked 31,884 sats. 01:04:13.460 --> 01:04:22.000 When you combine that with our boosters, we stacked a really incredible 700,287 sats. 01:04:35.369 --> 01:04:37.689 We're getting really close. I'm feeling really good about it. 01:04:38.529 --> 01:04:40.929 I think we're getting, I mean, it's happening. 01:04:41.089 --> 01:04:46.229 That's what I feel like. I mean, we were committed, but we can really start 01:04:46.229 --> 01:04:47.949 actually doing this now. We can book places. 01:04:48.189 --> 01:04:51.189 I don't know if we're fully there yet, but I just really want to say a huge 01:04:51.189 --> 01:04:53.989 thank you for everybody for reaching out and doing this. Think about what we're achieving here. 01:04:54.629 --> 01:04:55.949 We're doing something that traditionally 01:04:55.949 --> 01:04:59.309 has been funded by commercial entities that want an exchange. 01:04:59.329 --> 01:05:01.949 They want us to do something for them or cover their product while we're there, 01:05:02.029 --> 01:05:05.529 whatever it might be, which sometimes is a good fit, but not always. and this time it wasn't. 01:05:05.809 --> 01:05:08.049 And we're doing this now with our community and our audience. 01:05:08.989 --> 01:05:12.409 And it's open source content creation at this point. It really is. 01:05:12.549 --> 01:05:13.909 And we're going 12 years strong. 01:05:14.149 --> 01:05:15.789 We're going to get down there. We're going to have a great time, 01:05:15.909 --> 01:05:20.249 thanks to our audience, for the 12th anniversary and get us set up for another great 12 years. 01:05:20.369 --> 01:05:24.329 Thank you, everybody, who supported it, either with a fake boost or a boosty boost. 01:05:25.049 --> 01:05:27.829 And if you'd like to do that, you can get in on the action with Fountain FM. 01:05:27.829 --> 01:05:30.329 It's probably the easiest way. Or AlbiHub. 01:05:31.069 --> 01:05:32.969 And then you can just use any of the apps that support that. 01:05:33.009 --> 01:05:35.749 It's also a great way to get started. And of course, a big shout out to our 01:05:35.749 --> 01:05:37.929 members who are supporting us every single week. 01:05:38.049 --> 01:05:40.669 You're our foundation out there. We really, really do appreciate you too. 01:05:42.629 --> 01:05:45.049 Okay, how about a couple of picks before we get out of here? 01:05:45.249 --> 01:05:48.089 And then we'll check in on how the old hyper build is going one last time. 01:05:48.389 --> 01:05:53.749 So the first pick this week is, it's a genre now. I think it's officially safe 01:05:53.749 --> 01:05:55.849 to say the lazy genre is a thing. 01:05:56.069 --> 01:05:59.069 And we have a new entrance. It's Lazy SSH. 01:05:59.429 --> 01:06:03.209 A terminal-based SSH manager inspired by Lazy Docker. 01:06:03.789 --> 01:06:09.249 Lazy SSH is a two-week and an interactive SSH manager that sits on top of just 01:06:09.249 --> 01:06:14.469 different directories for managing quite literally a fleet of SSH servers if 01:06:14.469 --> 01:06:16.809 you want. I mean, I have like a handful, right? 01:06:17.029 --> 01:06:19.749 A dozen maybe that I want SSH into, which is nice for. 01:06:20.069 --> 01:06:23.629 So you can navigate and connect and manage and transfer files between your local 01:06:23.629 --> 01:06:27.289 machine and any server that's defined in your SSH config. 01:06:27.849 --> 01:06:30.829 You don't have to remember the IP addresses. You don't really have to worry 01:06:30.829 --> 01:06:34.929 about SCP commands anymore. it all takes care of it with a clean, keyboard-driven TUI. 01:06:36.254 --> 01:06:39.254 It's really sweet. It looks really good. And it's got fuzzy search, 01:06:39.394 --> 01:06:42.074 so if you kind of remember the machine's name or IP, if it's been a while. 01:06:42.894 --> 01:06:46.794 One key press SSH into selected servers. You can tag servers like prod, 01:06:46.994 --> 01:06:50.094 dev. You can sort by alias or last time you logged in. 01:06:50.534 --> 01:06:53.314 Okay, I'll have to give this a try. It does look like quite a nice little two-way. 01:06:53.454 --> 01:06:53.794 It is. 01:06:53.994 --> 01:06:59.854 I like all the color highlighting and stuff too. It seems like I should have needed this years ago. 01:07:00.034 --> 01:07:04.154 I'm loving the lazy. You know, we have lazy Vim. We have lazy Git. 01:07:04.994 --> 01:07:10.694 we have lazy docker and now we have lazy ssh it's pretty new it's 93 percent 01:07:10.694 --> 01:07:17.054 written in go and it's apache licensed so uh you can go have fun with it and 01:07:17.054 --> 01:07:19.614 we'll put a link to that in the show notes for y'all you can check that out. 01:07:19.614 --> 01:07:23.074 Now do you have um lazy hyper vibe because. 01:07:23.074 --> 01:07:25.754 I think we might need that uh-oh okay. 01:07:25.754 --> 01:07:30.034 Well i was able to figure out that well you had auto login going on. 01:07:30.714 --> 01:07:31.294 Oh, really? 01:07:31.454 --> 01:07:34.914 Yeah, you have GDM running, and then it does auto-logging. 01:07:34.934 --> 01:07:36.514 So that must be doing, okay, yeah. 01:07:36.674 --> 01:07:41.314 So I turn that off, and then, so GDM's working again. It was just core dumping before. 01:07:41.914 --> 01:07:45.714 But now, when I try to log in, Hyperland core dumps. 01:07:45.914 --> 01:07:50.574 Oh, man. Do you have any suspicions as to why? 01:07:51.514 --> 01:07:53.274 I'm looking at the logs. 01:07:55.814 --> 01:08:04.354 failed to create DRI2 screen LibGL warning Hyperland has crashed oh there's a crash report yeah. 01:08:04.354 --> 01:08:09.694 I wonder if you're it's interesting I wonder which base config it uses when 01:08:09.694 --> 01:08:12.054 I have two different systems well we're going to play around with that I. 01:08:12.054 --> 01:08:13.394 Based it on Nixstation. 01:08:13.394 --> 01:08:16.554 That makes sense Nixstation has multi screens, 01:08:18.834 --> 01:08:22.934 RVB is a more simpler system with only one screen, 01:08:23.494 --> 01:08:26.574 picked wrong you might have you might have been there if you picked the rvb 01:08:26.574 --> 01:08:30.874 route i don't know but clearly i still have more work to do and i have one more 01:08:30.874 --> 01:08:36.094 pick wes actually found this one is called term dot everything term dot everything 01:08:36.094 --> 01:08:41.814 is a linux command line program to run gui windows inside your terminal quality 01:08:41.814 --> 01:08:44.314 of the window is limited to the number of rows and columns in your terminal, 01:08:45.527 --> 01:08:49.727 But I mean it. If you've got a newer terminal like Kitty or iTerm2 or something 01:08:49.727 --> 01:08:53.327 that supports some video rendering, 01:08:53.587 --> 01:08:59.507 you could take your desktop applications and you can put them in the terminal. 01:08:59.667 --> 01:09:01.487 Wes, I don't know how the hell you found this thing. 01:09:01.587 --> 01:09:02.967 That is bonkers. 01:09:03.507 --> 01:09:06.647 And how I didn't find it during our freaking terminal challenge. 01:09:06.787 --> 01:09:10.127 Well, yeah, no kidding. It works on both X11 and Wayland. 01:09:10.707 --> 01:09:16.447 and in the video demonstration, they show somebody taking their Firefox web 01:09:16.447 --> 01:09:21.247 browser that's watching a YouTube video and pulling it into the terminal and 01:09:21.247 --> 01:09:24.927 then it's being rendered by terminal characters and they're watching a video. 01:09:26.987 --> 01:09:30.407 What is going on? This just completely short circuits my brain. 01:09:31.187 --> 01:09:36.287 There's another screenshot here and the description is Behold as I play a video 01:09:36.287 --> 01:09:41.047 game in a font, in a web browser, in a terminal transmitted over SSH with one 01:09:41.047 --> 01:09:42.487 hand tied behind my back. 01:09:43.187 --> 01:09:44.247 This is our kind of guy. 01:09:44.607 --> 01:09:48.887 Yeah, I think it hooks in as like a Wayland renderer. Like it talks the Wayland 01:09:48.887 --> 01:09:51.087 protocol, but then it uses the terminal to... 01:09:51.087 --> 01:09:54.087 Right. So only certain terminals are going to support this. Kitty, 01:09:54.267 --> 01:09:57.087 which comes pre-installed on Hypervibe, does support this though. 01:09:57.507 --> 01:10:01.287 So, I mean, this is next level stuff. 01:10:01.447 --> 01:10:05.547 This is next level stuff. Go check out the link in the show notes just so you 01:10:05.547 --> 01:10:07.427 can see what the heck we're going on about right now. 01:10:07.767 --> 01:10:10.787 You're not going to believe what they've been able to do with this app and it's 01:10:10.787 --> 01:10:15.167 gpl3 so absolutely crazy and bonkers, 01:10:15.707 --> 01:10:19.147 and worth just going and looking at the videos that they have embedded on the 01:10:19.147 --> 01:10:24.187 github page even if you don't install it just go marvel friends at what is possible and uh, 01:10:25.283 --> 01:10:29.583 Try it out, maybe. That's all I got. I could use a few good picks if people want to send those in. 01:10:29.763 --> 01:10:32.443 If you're looking for an excuse to support our trip to Texas Linux Fest and 01:10:32.443 --> 01:10:34.983 you want to include a pick in your message, I'd love to have that. 01:10:35.283 --> 01:10:38.823 Of course, we're going to be wrapping up this whole getting to Texas Linux Fest, 01:10:39.843 --> 01:10:42.683 essentially next Sunday. It's kind of the last one before we're hitting the road. 01:10:43.443 --> 01:10:46.623 And it's getting really close, you guys. It's getting really close. 01:10:46.943 --> 01:10:50.563 Also, I'll put a link to Hypervibe. It's on my GitHub. I'd love you to go check it out. 01:10:50.943 --> 01:10:53.543 We'll maybe fix up some of this stuff and we'll do a new commit. 01:10:54.303 --> 01:10:58.183 should probably have done a commit before we got down this route but I'd love 01:10:58.183 --> 01:11:00.123 you to check it out and give me your feedback we'll have that linked in the 01:11:00.123 --> 01:11:04.143 show notes and if you give KDE Linux a go we'd love to also capture that experience 01:11:04.143 --> 01:11:06.083 too we will be live next week. 01:11:10.103 --> 01:11:15.023 That's right make it a Tuesday on a Sunday join us 10 a.m. Pacific 1 p.m. 01:11:15.383 --> 01:11:18.543 Eastern you can get more show that way we always have the mumble room going 01:11:18.543 --> 01:11:22.563 and our live chat but we have a pro tip for folks Wes before we get out of here 01:11:22.563 --> 01:11:24.323 we have a couple extra benefits. 01:11:25.103 --> 01:11:28.003 That's right if you want to skip right to your favorite content. 01:11:28.003 --> 01:11:31.703 Check out our cloud chapters yeah they're. 01:11:31.703 --> 01:11:32.963 Right there in your podcast. 01:11:32.963 --> 01:11:34.323 Client and. 01:11:34.323 --> 01:11:37.663 If you need to get even more fine grain we have transcripts. 01:11:37.663 --> 01:11:42.263 So you can follow along links to what we talked about linuxunplugged.com slash 01:11:42.263 --> 01:11:46.623 632 thank you so much for joining us on this week's episode of your unplugged 01:11:46.623 --> 01:11:49.563 program see you right back here next Sunday.
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