Skip to main content
LawHub
Sign In
About LawHub Advantage Exploring Law Preparing for the LSAT Applying to Law School Excel in Law School Charting Your Career Podcast - I Am The Law Law School Trends Sign In
Search

Something New, Something Old

Nov 16, 2025
Listen to this episode

We dig into the biggest Linux hardware news of the year, then fire up our new-to-us 1L PC server.

Sponsored By:

Support LINUX Unplugged

Links:

Transcript

WEBVTT 00:00:11.375 --> 00:00:15.735 Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. 00:00:15.935 --> 00:00:16.655 My name is Wes. 00:00:16.855 --> 00:00:17.755 And my name is Brent. 00:00:18.215 --> 00:00:19.795 Hello, gentlemen. Well, coming 00:00:19.795 --> 00:00:23.375 up on the show today, we have something new and something old for you. 00:00:23.795 --> 00:00:26.795 Valve made some big Linux hardware news this week, so we're going to give you 00:00:26.795 --> 00:00:29.615 our take and the big things I think everyone's kind of overlooking. 00:00:30.595 --> 00:00:35.795 Then we have a souped up, refurbished one liter PC that might just work for 00:00:35.795 --> 00:00:40.495 my home lab. We're going to put the ThinkCenter M920Q through the tests, 00:00:40.555 --> 00:00:44.135 and then we'll round out the show with some great boos, some picks, and a lot more. 00:00:44.255 --> 00:00:47.695 So before I go any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings to that virtual 00:00:47.695 --> 00:00:48.455 log. Hello, Mumble Room! 00:00:48.635 --> 00:00:50.655 Hey, Chris, hey, Wes, and hello, Branch. 00:00:51.035 --> 00:00:53.355 You're doing good. You're representing. It's a small on-air crew. 00:00:53.435 --> 00:00:54.675 We've got some up in the quiet listening. 00:00:55.755 --> 00:00:58.675 Everybody's out. Otherwise, I think having a nice Sunday. Of course, 00:00:58.735 --> 00:01:02.715 our Mumble Room is live during the show. Details at jupiterbroadcasting.com slash mumble. 00:01:03.606 --> 00:01:09.346 Also, be sure to check out defined.net slash unplugged and go meet our friends at Defined Networking. 00:01:09.546 --> 00:01:14.566 They have Manage Nebula, which sits on top of the open source Nebula decentralized 00:01:14.566 --> 00:01:16.686 VPN platform that we love. 00:01:17.046 --> 00:01:20.706 Unlike traditional VPNs, Nebula's decentralized design keeps your network resilient. 00:01:20.866 --> 00:01:24.546 If you have a home lab, which is a couple of machines or a global enterprise 00:01:24.546 --> 00:01:29.186 from 2017 on, this thing had to hit the ground running because it interconnected 00:01:29.186 --> 00:01:33.566 Slack's global infrastructure across multiple data centers around the world. 00:01:33.606 --> 00:01:37.246 And they're moving everybody's data. So it has to work. It has to be confidential. 00:01:37.626 --> 00:01:41.686 And something I have been negligent to mention, but I wanted to, 00:01:42.046 --> 00:01:46.586 is at the beginning of summer, they released desktop clients for Nebula. 00:01:46.746 --> 00:01:49.926 And there's a Linux client in there as well as iOS and Android. 00:01:50.586 --> 00:01:54.526 Defined Networking has managed Nebula, which you can try out for free up to 00:01:54.526 --> 00:01:58.046 100 devices and really get a sense of how awesome this platform is. 00:01:58.166 --> 00:02:02.626 And if you ever just want to take it all yourself, everything is designed to be self-hostable. 00:02:02.626 --> 00:02:05.086 The bits you want, or you can take advantage of public infrastructure, 00:02:05.446 --> 00:02:09.886 this is the kind of thing you want to build your long-term network around, 00:02:10.046 --> 00:02:13.866 not something built on another platform that's going in a different direction. 00:02:14.046 --> 00:02:18.766 And so go check out Nebula. Try it out for free, up to 100 devices with a managed 00:02:18.766 --> 00:02:21.126 product, and go from there and support the show. It's real easy. 00:02:21.186 --> 00:02:23.746 Go to defined.net slash unplugged. 00:02:23.846 --> 00:02:30.526 You deserve a better VPN experience. So go redefine it at defined.net slash unplugged. 00:02:33.525 --> 00:02:37.745 We have a spot of housekeeping before we start the show. Ohio Linux Fest is 00:02:37.745 --> 00:02:39.565 back December 6th, 2025. 00:02:40.245 --> 00:02:43.265 Brent, are you going to just pop down? You know, just pop on down for a little... 00:02:43.705 --> 00:02:48.005 It's only like 10 hours from where I am now, so maybe, maybe. 00:02:48.005 --> 00:02:50.825 We've got over 10 days, so plenty of time for you. 00:02:51.025 --> 00:02:51.565 Oh, thanks. 00:02:51.605 --> 00:02:56.565 Yeah, now we know you can do it. It'll be in downtown Columbus at the Sonesta 00:02:56.565 --> 00:02:59.585 Hotel. We'll have a link in the show notes. You do need to register. 00:03:00.345 --> 00:03:03.565 Listener Jonathan will be there giving a talk. He's a sysadmin at Red Hat, 00:03:03.745 --> 00:03:07.385 and he manages a fleet of laptops. That's neat. 00:03:07.645 --> 00:03:11.725 Yeah, this talk should explain what to consider when managing Linux workstations 00:03:11.725 --> 00:03:15.325 for remote or traveling employees, discuss some of the technology used, 00:03:15.365 --> 00:03:17.045 and how things have changed. 00:03:17.225 --> 00:03:21.225 Yeah, that's a non-trivial problem, and you'll love to see it being talked about 00:03:21.225 --> 00:03:25.385 because I'm someone who wants to work for employers that provide Linux laptops. 00:03:25.625 --> 00:03:28.725 So, you know, realistically, that comes with, like, compliance and other things 00:03:28.725 --> 00:03:33.125 that needs to happen to make it work in the org. So, you know, spread that knowledge. 00:03:33.365 --> 00:03:37.025 I did do the travel math. If I was willing to drive 11 hours a day, 00:03:37.245 --> 00:03:40.405 it'd be 3.7 days of driving. 00:03:40.845 --> 00:03:42.805 3.7 days total of driving to get one way. 00:03:43.265 --> 00:03:44.905 You could totally do it. We've done worse. 00:03:45.425 --> 00:03:46.445 It's a bit of a trek. 00:03:47.125 --> 00:03:50.905 I know this is one we've been wanting to make for years now. 00:03:51.085 --> 00:03:52.485 Yeah. But it has eluded us. 00:03:52.905 --> 00:03:56.845 Tell you what, fly in somewhere, I'll pick you up, and then that'll shorten your drive. 00:03:57.165 --> 00:03:58.485 I like this idea. 00:03:58.625 --> 00:04:01.565 And we still sort of get like an artificial road trip. out of it. 00:04:01.565 --> 00:04:03.765 You get to ride in the van. 00:04:03.765 --> 00:04:06.705 Perhaps in our absence uh 00:04:06.705 --> 00:04:10.945 some of you could go and either boost us a little report emails report or even 00:04:10.945 --> 00:04:15.045 better show up in the mumble room and tell us how ohio linux fest went again 00:04:15.045 --> 00:04:19.325 it's on december 6th we'll have links to the web page and you do need to register 00:04:19.325 --> 00:04:24.245 so all that information will be in the show notes at linuxunplugged.com slash 641, 00:04:27.710 --> 00:04:32.330 Well, Valve made some big news this week. They announced a whole lineup of hardware. 00:04:32.770 --> 00:04:37.570 We have a new Steam frame, an updated Steam controller, and the Steam machine 00:04:37.570 --> 00:04:40.790 is back in a new and revamped way. 00:04:41.230 --> 00:04:43.550 And they're all running Steam OS. 00:04:44.930 --> 00:04:46.590 The implications feel pretty big here. 00:04:46.750 --> 00:04:49.570 The fact that they're all running Steam OS, I think, is the thing that jumps 00:04:49.570 --> 00:04:53.930 out at me first. This is what we were hoping for in our, was it our predictions? 00:04:54.250 --> 00:05:00.250 Did someone predict this? but that feels like quite a good thing for the linux ecosystem. 00:05:00.250 --> 00:05:03.630 Kind of a doubling down from them right like um we 00:05:03.630 --> 00:05:06.370 had this first go around if this if this was the 00:05:06.370 --> 00:05:10.830 usual like uh random government agency switches to linux then like they would 00:05:10.830 --> 00:05:14.650 have already cycled back a few times uh by now but like instead we're getting 00:05:14.650 --> 00:05:20.070 steam machine take two but they've spent like the last decade building out a 00:05:20.070 --> 00:05:23.790 whole bunch of cool technology underneath to to make it work out hopefully a 00:05:23.790 --> 00:05:25.030 lot better this time yeah. 00:05:25.030 --> 00:05:28.170 If it was a movie trailer or something the subtitle would be it would be steam 00:05:28.170 --> 00:05:35.090 machine 2 and the subtitle would be lessons learned right because that's that's the sense i got and i. 00:05:35.090 --> 00:05:35.610 Or i. 00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:38.510 Tried to devour all the interviews and that was the sense i got is they incorporated 00:05:38.510 --> 00:05:42.690 everything they've learned from proton and linux development and steam deck 00:05:42.690 --> 00:05:45.110 and they realized oh we would do the steam machine way differently now, 00:05:46.224 --> 00:05:51.104 So Gabe quotes, Gabe said, quote, we've been super happy with the success of 00:05:51.104 --> 00:05:54.704 the Steam Deck and PC gamers have continued asking for even more ways to play 00:05:54.704 --> 00:05:56.484 all the great titles of their Steam libraries. 00:05:57.024 --> 00:06:01.304 I will admit I have wanted them to do more with VR. So here's just to go over it. 00:06:01.364 --> 00:06:07.124 The 2026 lineup, which they say early 2026, is a updated Steam controller. 00:06:07.904 --> 00:06:12.184 Quite a nice update to it, actually, with magnetic sticks and new trackpads 00:06:12.184 --> 00:06:15.984 and all that. And they're including, which you're going to hear more about this, 00:06:16.124 --> 00:06:21.124 a low-latency wireless dongle, which is also built in to the Steam machine. 00:06:21.804 --> 00:06:24.824 Yeah, doesn't it seem nice? I don't know. I mean, I've only seen a couple of 00:06:24.824 --> 00:06:29.644 clips, but just the UX around it, the fit and finish, it seemed like a great idea. 00:06:30.244 --> 00:06:32.984 Brent, I get a sense you're the most excited about the new Steam machine, 00:06:32.984 --> 00:06:39.144 which is a six-inch cube aimed for the living room. It's got a Zen 4 processor in it. 00:06:39.244 --> 00:06:42.964 I guess that's six times, they say, more powerful than the Steam Deck. 00:06:43.484 --> 00:06:43.884 Wow. 00:06:44.004 --> 00:06:45.984 So it's a little box, a little Steam machine. 00:06:46.504 --> 00:06:50.364 Considering what some listeners have done with the Steam Deck and their portability 00:06:50.364 --> 00:06:54.464 and traveling, I think, yes, this is the kind of machine you and I love, 00:06:54.564 --> 00:06:58.344 Chris. A little tiny thing you could just plunk anywhere that gets all the work 00:06:58.344 --> 00:07:00.284 done. And, oh, wait, I said work. 00:07:00.444 --> 00:07:02.764 This is a gaming machine. Wait a second. 00:07:03.644 --> 00:07:07.244 Well, you know, I mean, it probably does make a nice little desktop machine, too. 00:07:07.564 --> 00:07:13.124 I mean, you do love seeing them. Even Steam, you know, saying that as part of their adverts. 00:07:13.264 --> 00:07:13.464 Yes. 00:07:13.724 --> 00:07:16.644 I will note, just as, you know, it's getting called the GameCube, 00:07:16.684 --> 00:07:20.424 and as a GameCube fan, the only thing I'm really missing from it is, 00:07:20.504 --> 00:07:21.684 where's the nice little handle? 00:07:22.622 --> 00:07:24.382 That does need a handle. You're right. 00:07:24.622 --> 00:07:27.602 Maybe there'll be 3D, you know, 3D printed aftermarket stuff you can get. 00:07:28.282 --> 00:07:34.142 People will build them for sure. For sure. And this, again, made for the living room. 00:07:34.202 --> 00:07:37.422 So probably people that were Steam Deck or are Steam Deck customers and always 00:07:37.422 --> 00:07:42.622 leave it hooked up to the TV, which I guess is 20%. I think that was the number they quoted. 00:07:42.882 --> 00:07:46.022 Yeah, I'm wondering about that because it does it does feel like console targeted. 00:07:46.182 --> 00:07:50.042 I wonder how you feel about the value to money. You mentioned like a 6x factor 00:07:50.042 --> 00:07:53.262 or something. But I've seen some people a little unhappy, feeling like maybe 00:07:53.262 --> 00:07:56.902 we don't really know the full price details or anything, but just feeling like 00:07:56.902 --> 00:07:59.262 maybe this isn't going to be long term competitive. 00:07:59.962 --> 00:08:04.702 Yeah, that's a good question. That is a good question. I'm a little. Yeah, I agree. 00:08:05.002 --> 00:08:07.642 I'm a little underwhelmed. I feel like I could build a more powerful system, 00:08:07.822 --> 00:08:09.302 but we don't know what the price. Yeah. 00:08:09.302 --> 00:08:12.582 Maybe if to your point, they're targeting more casual folks that you just want 00:08:12.582 --> 00:08:16.942 something that'll work well enough. You're not necessarily nitpicking over triple A frame rates. 00:08:17.882 --> 00:08:21.722 What I understand is their goal was you could play the majority of the Steam 00:08:21.722 --> 00:08:26.082 library at a 4K resolution on a TV with not everything turned up, 00:08:26.222 --> 00:08:27.502 but like decent settings. 00:08:27.802 --> 00:08:28.122 Yeah, okay. 00:08:28.282 --> 00:08:33.762 And then they're going to release essentially an API that game developers can use. 00:08:33.842 --> 00:08:37.262 So when it loads on one of these Steam devices, they know which type of Steam 00:08:37.262 --> 00:08:42.442 device they're on and they can preset the game video settings to be optimized for that machine. 00:08:42.622 --> 00:08:43.342 Oh, okay. 00:08:43.722 --> 00:08:47.102 Yeah. So that's one of the ways they're going to eek a little extra out of what 00:08:47.102 --> 00:08:49.162 might otherwise be slightly underwhelming specs. 00:08:50.362 --> 00:08:53.962 But the thing I think that I'm the most excited about, I'm curious to hear how you guys feel. 00:08:55.348 --> 00:08:58.028 And this is the part I think I might have predicted, as I think I predicted 00:08:58.028 --> 00:09:00.608 before we saw the next Steam Deck, we'd see them do something in VR. 00:09:00.888 --> 00:09:05.468 And now we have. It's called the Steam Frame, a lightweight standalone streaming 00:09:05.468 --> 00:09:10.708 VR headset powered by a Snapdragon 8 ARM processor. 00:09:11.248 --> 00:09:16.928 It has eye tracking and something that Valve has called foveated streaming. 00:09:17.228 --> 00:09:20.288 So this thing is really designed to be able to stream games to it. 00:09:20.368 --> 00:09:24.328 You can also play games locally, but it's designed around the intention of streaming 00:09:24.328 --> 00:09:26.588 any game from Steam on your desktop. 00:09:26.948 --> 00:09:31.548 And the foveated streaming is something that happens after the game has been 00:09:31.548 --> 00:09:33.048 rendered on the remote PC. 00:09:33.228 --> 00:09:37.308 So the remote PC's GPU works hard. So you can have a nice fancy sucker in there. 00:09:37.388 --> 00:09:39.128 And it renders the game frames. 00:09:39.268 --> 00:09:43.128 And then just before the software sends it off to the frame that you have on 00:09:43.128 --> 00:09:47.708 your face, it spends all the time in the video and all that rendering only the 00:09:47.708 --> 00:09:51.288 part that you're looking at because the frame is tracking your eyes. 00:09:51.648 --> 00:09:54.828 And so if you were to somehow be able to zoom out and look at the entire picture 00:09:54.828 --> 00:10:00.068 only the exact spot you're looking at has all of the resources and everything 00:10:00.068 --> 00:10:04.108 else is lower res lower rendered and so it's only doing its most, 00:10:04.848 --> 00:10:09.188 computational workload exactly where you are focused you can't tell because 00:10:09.188 --> 00:10:10.808 you're not looking anywhere else so. 00:10:10.808 --> 00:10:15.488 Does that mean it's streaming your eye tracking data back to the um the host rendering platform. 00:10:15.488 --> 00:10:18.168 That's what i have to reckon yeah it must 00:10:18.168 --> 00:10:20.968 be that kind of data going back and 00:10:20.968 --> 00:10:24.788 forth very cool and very 00:10:24.788 --> 00:10:28.808 impressive the other thing about the frame is that 00:10:28.808 --> 00:10:32.488 it is really going to be quite customizable the entire machine is just in the 00:10:32.488 --> 00:10:36.508 front piece like the little tiny visor piece that pops off and there is just 00:10:36.508 --> 00:10:40.508 going to be a world of accessories to make this thing comfortable and i think 00:10:40.508 --> 00:10:47.608 the part that people have have mentioned but have maybe glossed over is this is a full, 00:10:47.608 --> 00:10:50.568 it is ARM, but it is a full Steam machine. 00:10:52.134 --> 00:10:55.574 So that means you can sideload software on this thing. 00:10:56.634 --> 00:11:04.114 And it also means that you can run Linux desktop mode on the Steam frame, on the VR headset. 00:11:05.894 --> 00:11:08.794 This is exactly what you've been asking for. 00:11:08.934 --> 00:11:11.794 Yeah, right? How much time have you spent recreating this? Strap a computer to my face. 00:11:11.794 --> 00:11:12.354 He says. 00:11:13.034 --> 00:11:17.654 Wouldn't it be sort of ironic if Valve was the one to bring this to the mainstream? 00:11:17.794 --> 00:11:21.074 Because, you know, there's devices out there that do this. And so I haven't 00:11:21.074 --> 00:11:24.094 heard a lot of people talk about this, but it did come up in an engineering chat. 00:11:24.674 --> 00:11:28.254 And I will link to the full video in the show notes, but here's the bit relevant 00:11:28.254 --> 00:11:29.934 to the Linux desktop on the frame. 00:11:30.094 --> 00:11:34.474 For the microSD card, it's not just for SteamOS games, but any type of media 00:11:34.474 --> 00:11:36.534 content also works on that? 00:11:36.674 --> 00:11:38.914 Are you thinking of it works as extra storage? Media content, 00:11:39.234 --> 00:11:40.654 it's certainly your computer. 00:11:40.914 --> 00:11:44.034 So you as a computer owner can do anything you want with that data storage. 00:11:44.454 --> 00:11:47.574 We tend to think about this as a gaming device first and foremost. 00:11:47.574 --> 00:11:52.594 So while we don't restrict or limit any media options, that is very much not 00:11:52.594 --> 00:11:53.674 our focus out of the gate. 00:11:54.254 --> 00:11:57.534 We'll see what people do with it. Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that a microSD 00:11:57.534 --> 00:12:00.914 card formatted for SteamOS to read it, if you go to desktop mode, 00:12:00.914 --> 00:12:04.534 you'd be able to open files in there and look at it from the file browser. Yeah. 00:12:05.014 --> 00:12:09.934 Does a headset render in a standard resolution? Is that configurable? 00:12:10.754 --> 00:12:14.574 Well, the headset is locked to 2160 by 2160. SteamOS, I guess. 00:12:15.054 --> 00:12:18.454 SteamVR. Yeah, SteamVR and SteamOS, it's all dynamic. All dynamic, okay. 00:12:18.494 --> 00:12:21.134 Yeah, so even when you launch desktop mode, it's less of a mode and more you 00:12:21.134 --> 00:12:24.554 hit a button and you have a desktop window and it could be a big one or a smaller one. Right, okay. 00:12:26.134 --> 00:12:28.474 That could be really neat. It could suck. 00:12:32.474 --> 00:12:38.654 But if you could bring a little high-powered armed face computer and get a Linux 00:12:38.654 --> 00:12:44.894 desktop, a stable plasma Linux desktop, that's pretty exciting. 00:12:44.894 --> 00:12:47.914 That can also game, can also stream stuff from your other computers. 00:12:49.479 --> 00:12:52.839 That, to me, PJ, are you feeling what I'm putting down? Doesn't that feel like 00:12:52.839 --> 00:12:54.179 a compelling product from Valve? 00:12:54.339 --> 00:12:57.819 And you know how Valve leaves these things open. So, like emulators, 00:12:57.859 --> 00:12:59.619 you could sideload on an SD card. 00:13:00.499 --> 00:13:01.759 This sounds like your device. 00:13:02.619 --> 00:13:06.319 The things I'm feeling are indescribable. Like, this thing has me so fired up. 00:13:07.439 --> 00:13:12.459 Oh, man. The work they've done, and I kind of called this out a while back when 00:13:12.459 --> 00:13:13.799 we started seeing the rumors. 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:17.579 Oh, Valve is working on ARM stuff and x86 translation. 00:13:17.579 --> 00:13:20.579 And i'm like oh this is headset this is definitely headset 00:13:20.579 --> 00:13:23.379 they're not going to do x86 for a headset and sure enough 00:13:23.379 --> 00:13:26.239 we got a headset and that and that right 00:13:26.239 --> 00:13:29.579 there the fact that it's running steam ls it's running linux it's not 00:13:29.579 --> 00:13:33.039 just this isn't great for gaming they are making the 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.919 apple walled garden for gaming using open source and 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.739 that is so exciting nobody else is doing this 00:13:38.739 --> 00:13:42.159 nobody else is making a full range of 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.679 hardware and software that works together for a 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.599 use case in this case gaming that all 00:13:48.599 --> 00:13:52.399 works together really really well and and being powered by linux and open source 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:59.459 is incredible and having that compatibility layer having it on arm able to run 00:13:59.459 --> 00:14:03.379 x86 software we'll see i don't have very high hopes for that because you never 00:14:03.379 --> 00:14:06.499 know but i do have high hopes that, 00:14:07.219 --> 00:14:12.119 the system's going to work well for what it's intended to do and i think it's going to. 00:14:13.234 --> 00:14:16.034 Over achieve the way the steam deck like the 00:14:16.034 --> 00:14:19.134 steam deck isn't the steam deck isn't the most powerful hardware 00:14:19.134 --> 00:14:22.074 obviously we know that but it still punches way above 00:14:22.074 --> 00:14:26.174 its its weight class in terms of raw performance and raw power and i i think 00:14:26.174 --> 00:14:30.294 we're going to get the same thing here that foveated streaming it comes with 00:14:30.294 --> 00:14:34.714 a dedicated dongle as well as something people need to understand everyone's 00:14:34.714 --> 00:14:39.774 wi-fi sucks everybody's wi-fi sucks they solve that by giving you a little router 00:14:39.774 --> 00:14:41.074 i've given you a dongle yep. 00:14:41.074 --> 00:14:43.234 Yeah that is a good that was a great move. 00:14:43.234 --> 00:14:47.314 And putting everything on six gigahertz that matters having three different 00:14:47.314 --> 00:14:52.554 radios all doing different things on the on the frame itself as well man this 00:14:52.554 --> 00:14:55.414 is exciting i i i've been wanting to get into, 00:14:56.034 --> 00:14:58.874 into vr for a while i've got a computer for it now 00:14:58.874 --> 00:15:03.434 you know uh even the index has been on my site but they never never went on 00:15:03.434 --> 00:15:08.234 sale right so for me it's exciting i'm worried about the wireless factor but 00:15:08.234 --> 00:15:12.114 i think they've got that covered with the dedicated streaming hardware the standalone 00:15:12.114 --> 00:15:16.174 stuff 8 16 gigs of ram like it's a powerful computer on your face, 00:15:16.794 --> 00:15:22.314 rumors to sideload apks for android it's it's armed so you know way droid stuff 00:15:22.314 --> 00:15:27.354 like that a lot of the vr games or apks are on android meta quest style but 00:15:27.354 --> 00:15:29.694 open source i'm you're gonna be able to fired up. 00:15:29.694 --> 00:15:35.754 Yeah i i also feel pretty excited about it of course i'm reserving some judgment based on the price. 00:15:35.914 --> 00:15:39.234 We know we're going to have two versions. It'll be a 256 gigabyte and a one 00:15:39.234 --> 00:15:40.834 terabyte versions of the frame. 00:15:41.054 --> 00:15:43.994 The dev program is starting very soon. 00:15:44.274 --> 00:15:48.934 Kits will start going out mid-November. So probably in the next couple of weeks, 00:15:48.954 --> 00:15:51.414 you're going to start seeing these kits go out. 00:15:51.554 --> 00:15:52.814 They claim the price will be 00:15:52.814 --> 00:15:57.414 lower than the index. So if it's under a grand, man, I'm sold. I'm sold. 00:15:57.774 --> 00:16:01.194 Like it's still, the quest is still way cheaper, but you know, 00:16:01.614 --> 00:16:02.794 pay for what you get, I guess. 00:16:03.154 --> 00:16:06.674 This is one of the big questions. But Valve... 00:16:07.803 --> 00:16:10.483 I don't know about the price, but I want to go back to something you said earlier, 00:16:10.683 --> 00:16:13.783 and that was how the deck seems to punch above its weight. 00:16:14.603 --> 00:16:18.343 We are watching Valve now having figured out the game, right? 00:16:18.943 --> 00:16:23.883 Just like we saw with the deck with Proton, we're watching them invest in the 00:16:23.883 --> 00:16:27.143 technology stack way out ahead of time. 00:16:28.763 --> 00:16:33.303 Getting the infrastructure ready at the open source level way ahead of time. 00:16:33.303 --> 00:16:38.603 And then when it's ready, bring it into their product and making something seemingly 00:16:38.603 --> 00:16:44.263 impossible possible before it was good Windows gaming on Linux and now it's ARM. 00:16:45.858 --> 00:16:51.198 On or x86 games on arm and this is where fex comes in f-e-x and we've talked 00:16:51.198 --> 00:16:55.838 about it very briefly on the show it's a translation layer of sorts right west 00:16:55.838 --> 00:16:57.738 it's kind of like an api translation layer. 00:16:57.738 --> 00:17:04.358 Yep fex allows you to run x86 applications on arm 64 linux devices similar to 00:17:04.358 --> 00:17:09.978 what you might do with like qemu user or box 64 um and then not only can you 00:17:09.978 --> 00:17:15.318 do it just in general but it's also meant to be used alongside things like Wine and Proton. 00:17:15.418 --> 00:17:19.698 So you can have a chance to play x86 Windows games on ARM Linux. 00:17:19.898 --> 00:17:23.638 And then it even has tricks to make that work, like it supports forwarding API 00:17:23.638 --> 00:17:26.818 calls to host system libraries like OpenGL or Vulkan. 00:17:27.138 --> 00:17:30.638 So instead of doing sort of like the dumbest layer of just emulate everything, 00:17:31.318 --> 00:17:34.478 you can sort of figure out like, oh, I could just directly translate this call 00:17:34.478 --> 00:17:36.198 without having to go through the layers of emulation. 00:17:36.618 --> 00:17:43.338 That you can make this work at all, let alone be performant enough to play games enjoyably incredible. 00:17:43.338 --> 00:17:46.758 Yes yeah really um it's 00:17:46.758 --> 00:17:50.358 something i've been meaning to try around on my uh my macbook 00:17:50.358 --> 00:17:53.098 pro i played around with it for like 10 minutes the part 00:17:53.098 --> 00:17:56.278 you just touched on there at the end that it understands if a 00:17:56.278 --> 00:17:59.318 game is making an open gl or a vulcan call it 00:17:59.318 --> 00:18:02.538 doesn't need to emulate that it can just pass that 00:18:02.538 --> 00:18:05.598 through natively or if it's if it's a direct 00:18:05.598 --> 00:18:08.298 x call that it can translate to a vulcan call it can do 00:18:08.298 --> 00:18:12.998 that too but if the game if it's a windows game that's already using open gl 00:18:12.998 --> 00:18:18.158 or vulcan it can pass it right through to the native subsystem which is which 00:18:18.158 --> 00:18:24.818 is a similar trick apple uses with rosetta 2 on the arm macbooks you do have 00:18:24.818 --> 00:18:27.418 to have arm 8 hardware but this is where valve has. 00:18:29.718 --> 00:18:32.698 This long-term thinking, building out these open-source projects, 00:18:34.063 --> 00:18:39.003 Now they have total control over the OS, the software environment that makes 00:18:39.003 --> 00:18:40.263 it possible, and the hardware. 00:18:41.383 --> 00:18:45.503 Like Jeff was kind of saying, it's almost the Apple ecosystem of gaming hardware 00:18:45.503 --> 00:18:48.963 in the sense that they can optimize everything in that entire stack. 00:18:49.643 --> 00:18:52.643 And even after it ships, they can continue to optimize it like we've seen with 00:18:52.643 --> 00:18:57.163 the deck. The deck got better after it came out. It got faster after it came out. 00:18:57.583 --> 00:19:00.663 Games ran better. More games after it came out. 00:19:01.063 --> 00:19:04.083 And that was just them issuing software updates. since they have that whole 00:19:04.083 --> 00:19:07.503 stack and they have fex to emulate 00:19:07.503 --> 00:19:10.743 x86 programs on arm in a way that isn't 00:19:10.743 --> 00:19:13.563 miserable and of 00:19:13.563 --> 00:19:19.223 course we'll see but this to me is one of the absolute missing pieces because 00:19:19.223 --> 00:19:23.623 when i run linux arm which i do pretty frequently everything's a web app for 00:19:23.623 --> 00:19:28.043 me so few things are x86 and if this could be expanded to run other programs 00:19:28.043 --> 00:19:31.183 down the future sort of like you can with Wine and Proton. 00:19:31.943 --> 00:19:35.443 Oh boy. Because you can use it alongside with Wine and Proton, 00:19:35.503 --> 00:19:37.983 of course. You have to be able to. It's just very exciting. 00:19:38.183 --> 00:19:42.243 And to see them kind of put all this in there together, I think the ultimate 00:19:42.243 --> 00:19:46.183 result down the road will be, 00:19:46.903 --> 00:19:54.583 it may become too prohibitive for these game vendors to use this horrible anti-cheat software. 00:19:55.343 --> 00:20:00.023 Because if 20% of your player base is on Steam hardware at some point in the 00:20:00.023 --> 00:20:05.123 future, then you're going to have to do something that lets them play your game 00:20:05.123 --> 00:20:08.143 on their hardware because that's a big customer base at that point. 00:20:08.263 --> 00:20:11.723 And this is sort of happening in a broader context of the gaming ecosystem where 00:20:11.723 --> 00:20:13.423 Xbox is kind of pulling back. 00:20:14.739 --> 00:20:19.059 The consoles are sort of tired. This is a really nice value proposition. 00:20:19.479 --> 00:20:24.159 And if on top of this, we can build out more and more users running these games 00:20:24.159 --> 00:20:28.239 on Linux, on Steam hardware, these game manufacturers, they're going to have 00:20:28.239 --> 00:20:29.879 to respond, right? They're going to have to. 00:20:30.379 --> 00:20:34.179 Because anti-cheat to me seems like the biggest problem still for these devices, right? 00:20:34.939 --> 00:20:38.399 I just totally agree that developers need to get on board. 00:20:39.619 --> 00:20:43.819 There's a lot of news like, oh, Steam. Valve is a monopoly and Steam's a monopoly 00:20:43.819 --> 00:20:46.119 in the gaming sphere. It's like, well, there's no competition, 00:20:46.159 --> 00:20:50.159 you know, step it up, step up your game and, and, and actually compete in that 00:20:50.159 --> 00:20:52.379 aspect. And the anti-cheat stuff is a big part of it. 00:20:52.659 --> 00:20:55.859 You know, Valve kind of lets the developers do what they want to do in a lot of ways. 00:20:56.499 --> 00:20:59.819 And they just lay it out. It's like, Hey, do you want to be on our platform? 00:20:59.959 --> 00:21:02.719 Do you want to play your games on this great selling hardware? 00:21:03.099 --> 00:21:06.219 Then it's got to run on Linux. You got to get rid of that anti-cheat. 00:21:06.439 --> 00:21:09.039 And I'm really, really hoping that game developers step it up and, 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:13.899 and go that way as well. Especially now that we have even more hardware to, to play those games on. 00:21:14.899 --> 00:21:19.099 I'm trying to think of, I'm trying to think of who the ideal customer is for this, Brent. 00:21:19.699 --> 00:21:23.119 Who do you think the ideal customer is for the, for the steam machine? 00:21:23.199 --> 00:21:26.439 Not so much for the frame, but for the steam machine, that kind of console thing. 00:21:26.439 --> 00:21:33.059 Well i think it's me and you to be honest like i maybe i hesitate to buy consoles because, 00:21:34.159 --> 00:21:36.939 i'm not that much of a gamer i used to be there's 00:21:36.939 --> 00:21:39.819 a nostalgia there but i just i don't know every time 00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:42.999 i've tried to you know set up a system it's uh hoops 00:21:42.999 --> 00:21:50.859 to jump through but having a little mini pc that i could use in place of the 00:21:50.859 --> 00:21:56.419 mini pc i bought last year for instance but also have it just like be work all 00:21:56.419 --> 00:22:00.299 the time 100 of the time for some gaming when i do want to jump in that could 00:22:00.299 --> 00:22:02.799 totally convert my sort of, 00:22:04.735 --> 00:22:08.295 the way that I've been a gamer, but I'm no longer a gamer. 00:22:08.515 --> 00:22:13.055 So this may convert a lot of people into gaming, which for Valve, 00:22:13.155 --> 00:22:14.595 I would imagine is a good thing. 00:22:14.795 --> 00:22:17.935 You know, they're, they're reaching out on the edges of their current customer 00:22:17.935 --> 00:22:24.075 base and potentially converting new people to gaming, especially gaming on their platforms. 00:22:24.495 --> 00:22:28.455 Uh, it I'm tempted for the first time in decades, I have to say. 00:22:29.095 --> 00:22:33.175 It's, it's ideal for people like you and me that either live on laptops or B links. 00:22:33.175 --> 00:22:36.195 So it's nice to have a but also i was thinking of 00:22:36.195 --> 00:22:39.335 we hear more and more people that are leaving windows with windows 00:22:39.335 --> 00:22:42.975 11 frustrations and the end of windows 10 support and 00:22:42.975 --> 00:22:46.175 this just seems like another license to leave windows now you can 00:22:46.175 --> 00:22:48.975 go get your framework you can go get your macbook or 00:22:48.975 --> 00:22:52.035 whatever it is if that's the way you're going and you can still get access to your 00:22:52.035 --> 00:22:54.875 library of pc games and now you can just let valve 00:22:54.875 --> 00:22:59.555 handle it um or somebody else right nothing nothing prohibits somebody else 00:22:59.555 --> 00:23:04.795 from coming along but to me that feels pretty powerful and i think just as the 00:23:04.795 --> 00:23:08.435 steam deck has moved the needle a little bit more for linux gaming i think so 00:23:08.435 --> 00:23:13.215 will the frame and the steam machine and hopefully the long-term result is these anti-cheats go away. 00:23:13.215 --> 00:23:14.755 I do have a question for you chris. 00:23:14.755 --> 00:23:16.175 Okay uh. 00:23:16.175 --> 00:23:20.175 If on day of release you know let's say you decided to buy something but you 00:23:20.175 --> 00:23:25.335 had to choose between the frame and the steam machine which one would you go for. 00:23:26.639 --> 00:23:27.819 Oh, 100% the frame. 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.039 Uh-huh. I was hoping you'd say that. 00:23:30.219 --> 00:23:30.259 Oh, 100%. 00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:31.079 Say more, please. 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:37.239 Well, you know, I've always dreamed of a decent VR headset that would let me 00:23:37.239 --> 00:23:43.119 get work done in the RV with essentially either a ginormous screen. 00:23:43.679 --> 00:23:46.579 And so what, of course, I've just ended up doing is I tried the Quest for a 00:23:46.579 --> 00:23:51.039 while. But the issue there is you have to run this client software and all that. And it can break. 00:23:51.439 --> 00:23:55.779 And so I just got an ultra-wide screen. But it's a ridiculously oversized monitor for the space. 00:23:56.639 --> 00:23:59.539 So what would be great is to have my laptop at home or something. 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:01.399 And then when I need the big space, I put the frame on. 00:24:01.499 --> 00:24:05.419 And if the frame is a computer itself, that's pretty awesome. 00:24:06.159 --> 00:24:10.119 That's pretty powerful. I don't really want to stream my desktop. I mean, I might. 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:16.119 Maybe I will like that. But I love the idea of a persistent workspace in the frame. 00:24:16.999 --> 00:24:21.639 My local user data is there. And I can just pull it up in a window in a space, 00:24:21.779 --> 00:24:23.079 maybe have multiple windows even one day. 00:24:23.859 --> 00:24:26.559 That to me would be probably more useful than a gaming computer. 00:24:26.639 --> 00:24:29.239 But I know I'm a weird one. That's just odd. 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.319 I'd like to actually punt that to the audience. 00:24:33.159 --> 00:24:36.739 And I'd like to ask you out there, what's your reaction to the Valve news? 00:24:37.139 --> 00:24:39.579 And are you in the market for one of these in 2026? 00:24:40.059 --> 00:24:44.239 And what do you think the pricing is going to be for the frame and the Steam machine? 00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:49.059 Boost in and let us know your reaction, if you're going to get one, 00:24:49.159 --> 00:24:50.379 and what you think the pricing will be. 00:24:51.259 --> 00:24:52.939 Or what your price level is. 00:24:53.059 --> 00:24:55.179 Maybe. Where do you need it to be if you're going to pick one up? 00:24:56.219 --> 00:25:00.739 My, yeah, my question is, how comfortable would you, and be realistic, 00:25:01.679 --> 00:25:03.519 you know, because it's never as cheap as we really want. 00:25:07.693 --> 00:25:13.253 1password.com slash unplugged. That's the number one password and unplugged, all lowercase. 00:25:13.433 --> 00:25:17.233 Take the first step to better security for your team by securing credentials 00:25:17.233 --> 00:25:20.993 and protecting every application, even the unmanaged stuff. 00:25:21.053 --> 00:25:24.853 So go to 1password.com slash unplugged. Again, it's all lowercase. 00:25:25.433 --> 00:25:29.613 This is something that I wish I had when I was still in IT because I remember 00:25:29.613 --> 00:25:33.893 distinctly a moment when I walked in to a campus that was a client of mine and 00:25:33.893 --> 00:25:35.013 I was just getting to know them. 00:25:35.253 --> 00:25:40.293 And I went to the art department and they were working on promotional material 00:25:40.293 --> 00:25:42.673 for an unreleased solar product at the time. 00:25:43.766 --> 00:25:48.266 And they had just installed this new thing called Dropbox. IT had no idea. 00:25:48.506 --> 00:25:52.266 And it was just the beginning. And then I saw people standing up their own slacks. 00:25:52.406 --> 00:25:55.766 And that is quaint by today's standards. 00:25:56.246 --> 00:26:00.886 In fact, over half of IT pros say securing SaaS applications is their biggest challenge. 00:26:01.466 --> 00:26:05.866 There's a real sprawl out there. That's where Trellica by 1Password can really help. 00:26:06.046 --> 00:26:10.246 It'll discover and secure access to all your apps, even the unmanaged one. 00:26:10.466 --> 00:26:14.186 Yeah, Trellica by 1Password inventories every app, even the ones you didn't 00:26:14.186 --> 00:26:19.086 know about, the unmanaged ones, and it has pre-populated app profiles to assess their SaaS risks. 00:26:19.166 --> 00:26:21.606 So you get an idea of what is going on. 00:26:21.726 --> 00:26:25.066 It lets you actually manage the access. You can optimize the spend to make sure 00:26:25.066 --> 00:26:25.986 there isn't redundancy. 00:26:26.426 --> 00:26:29.926 How many times have you discovered that end users went and signed up for something 00:26:29.926 --> 00:26:33.366 that the corporation's already paying for? That is actually really common. 00:26:33.566 --> 00:26:37.026 And the other thing that's really nice is you can enforce best practices across 00:26:37.026 --> 00:26:40.726 every app that your employees use in a way that is complementary. 00:26:41.046 --> 00:26:43.966 It's collaborative. It's not hostile to end users. 00:26:44.266 --> 00:26:48.186 But ultimately, you can really get your hands around that sprawl. 00:26:48.486 --> 00:26:50.526 You can actually meet your governance goals. 00:26:51.006 --> 00:26:54.886 Trelica by 1Password provides a complete solution for SaaS access governance. 00:26:55.146 --> 00:26:58.866 It's just one of the ways that extended access management helps teams strengthen 00:26:58.866 --> 00:27:00.706 compliance and security. 00:27:01.506 --> 00:27:04.426 1Password is known for their award-winning password manager. 00:27:04.586 --> 00:27:07.586 And good password hygiene is obviously a major part of security. 00:27:07.786 --> 00:27:11.366 That's just scratching the surface. You know it, though. It's just scratching 00:27:11.366 --> 00:27:15.726 the surface, and that's why over 150,000 businesses from IBM and Slack, 00:27:15.726 --> 00:27:19.166 they're all using 1Password for more than just passwords. 00:27:19.366 --> 00:27:21.446 They're using extended access management. 00:27:21.706 --> 00:27:25.306 Take the first steps to better security for your team. Secure credentials and 00:27:25.306 --> 00:27:29.146 protect every application, even the stuff you didn't know about. It's possible. 00:27:29.326 --> 00:27:34.866 Go learn more. Support the show. Check out their video. Go to 1Password.com slash unplugged. 00:27:34.906 --> 00:27:39.786 That is the number one, then password.com slash unplugged, all lowercase. 00:27:40.366 --> 00:27:43.086 1password.com slash unplugged. 00:27:46.693 --> 00:27:51.033 Now, with all that talk of hardware, of course, we're constantly working on 00:27:51.033 --> 00:27:53.053 our own hardware in our home lab setups. 00:27:53.373 --> 00:27:57.273 I know for a good part of the summer and even into this fall, 00:27:57.453 --> 00:28:02.853 we were setting up the home assistant in my van. And that has turned out wonderfully. 00:28:03.633 --> 00:28:05.913 Jeff, thanks for the hardware again. I don't know why you gave it away. 00:28:06.033 --> 00:28:10.113 It's great. That said, Chris, we haven't really done any upgrades to your setup, 00:28:10.233 --> 00:28:14.813 but you in the last few episodes have kind of hinted that you need a new box. 00:28:14.813 --> 00:28:20.293 And it so turns out we have amazing listeners and listener Alex sent a previously 00:28:20.293 --> 00:28:25.793 loved Lenovo ThinkCenter M920Q, which is a little tiny one liter PC. 00:28:26.493 --> 00:28:32.873 We have to try it out and put it to the task. And well, wasn't there a note in that box too? 00:28:32.953 --> 00:28:37.933 Ah, there was. Alex included a note in the box. I always really appreciate that. 00:28:38.733 --> 00:28:41.873 Wait, that sounds like you have the map. I think that's the wrong. 00:28:41.953 --> 00:28:45.213 Similar. It's not quite as big, doesn't have all the dynamic tiles that Wes has added. 00:28:45.413 --> 00:28:50.593 But Alex writes, hey, Chris, Wes, and Brent, glad I could help out the show. 00:28:50.773 --> 00:28:54.553 Inside the box, you're going to find a Lenovo ThinkCenter M920Q. 00:28:54.793 --> 00:29:01.053 It's running 32 gigs of RAM, a 1 terabyte NVMe, a 250 gig SSD that might still 00:29:01.053 --> 00:29:03.833 have Windows hanging around on it, and the power brick's in there, too. 00:29:04.093 --> 00:29:08.633 I decided to add some fun extras for my tinkering. There's a PCIe riser card 00:29:08.633 --> 00:29:11.833 that exposes the PCIe 3.08X slot. 00:29:12.153 --> 00:29:16.553 So you can drop proper PCIe cards in. I used it with a gigabit Ethernet card 00:29:16.553 --> 00:29:20.793 when I was experimenting with the system as a PFSense box. 00:29:21.073 --> 00:29:23.613 And then later tried a secondary NVMe drive. Both worked well. 00:29:23.773 --> 00:29:29.273 I even tested the NVMe adapter in place of the Wi-Fi card. It was functional-ish. 00:29:30.061 --> 00:29:36.161 He says, while digging through the parts bin, I found an unopened SkyConnect 00:29:36.161 --> 00:29:38.561 Zigbee adapter from when it was first launched. 00:29:38.821 --> 00:29:41.601 Chris, I remember your Zigbee adventures. Maybe this one plays nice. 00:29:41.781 --> 00:29:44.501 I've since moved to PoE gear, so it's all yours. 00:29:44.681 --> 00:29:49.021 And because I can't stand shipping a box with empty space, I tossed in a few 00:29:49.021 --> 00:29:52.041 Cafu smart plugs that work great with the HP home. 00:29:52.481 --> 00:29:55.441 I've gone mostly in-wall for my setup, so these need a better home. 00:29:55.441 --> 00:29:58.981 Oh, and these tiny skeletons I've included, those are left over from our annual 00:29:58.981 --> 00:30:00.581 Halloween gifts that I 3D printed. 00:30:00.841 --> 00:30:04.041 They just felt like they belonged in there. You probably don't see my name pop 00:30:04.041 --> 00:30:06.541 up in the booth, but I've been a monthly member for a long time. 00:30:06.821 --> 00:30:08.921 Always in the background, tuning in every week. 00:30:09.341 --> 00:30:11.601 Monday mornings start with Linux Unplugged for me. 00:30:12.041 --> 00:30:14.901 Anyways, hope you enjoy the hardware or at least some laughs out of the gear. 00:30:15.121 --> 00:30:18.741 And hey, the ATL is absolutely ripe for a live show. 00:30:19.881 --> 00:30:23.801 Hey, the ATL is absolutely ripe for a live show. I appreciate everything you guys do. Thanks, Alex. 00:30:24.241 --> 00:30:25.141 Thank you, Alex. 00:30:25.441 --> 00:30:26.061 This is awesome. 00:30:26.361 --> 00:30:29.941 These smart plugs are great that he included. I'm going to set a couple aside 00:30:29.941 --> 00:30:31.421 for you, Wes, so you can play with these two. 00:30:32.461 --> 00:30:35.141 And they, I think, I don't know if they came preloaded with, 00:30:35.221 --> 00:30:37.921 yeah, yeah, they come preloaded with ESP Home. 00:30:39.181 --> 00:30:45.841 And it's an ESP8266 in here. And because of that, it has full energy monitoring, which I love. 00:30:45.921 --> 00:30:46.521 That is awesome. 00:30:47.161 --> 00:30:48.181 The workflow is, 00:30:49.117 --> 00:30:51.637 Dead simple with these. I'll put a link to them in the show notes. 00:30:51.757 --> 00:30:53.877 You plug them in. They create a little AP. 00:30:54.397 --> 00:30:57.977 You join that. The first thing that comes up is it has a CAPTCHA, 00:30:58.177 --> 00:31:01.057 but the CAPTCHA is just select your Wi-Fi, your real Wi-Fi network. 00:31:01.317 --> 00:31:05.117 And so you do that, and then it reboots, and it's on your Wi-Fi. 00:31:05.377 --> 00:31:08.757 And then about two seconds later, Home Assistant auto detects it. 00:31:08.917 --> 00:31:09.137 Excellent. 00:31:10.157 --> 00:31:14.057 Pulls it in, and I'm off to the races with energy monitoring, 00:31:14.057 --> 00:31:16.937 all the stuff. It's just so great. So K-A-U-F. 00:31:16.937 --> 00:31:18.877 Oh, wow. Yeah, okay. That sounds awesome. 00:31:18.877 --> 00:31:22.357 Yeah, and they're Wi-Fi based, but they're not like a proprietary, right? It's ESP home. 00:31:22.837 --> 00:31:28.797 I like that somehow, you know, I think Listener Alex is like the secondhand stuff. 00:31:28.977 --> 00:31:31.937 It's better than plenty of firsthand stuff. 00:31:32.117 --> 00:31:33.397 Yeah, that's very true. 00:31:33.637 --> 00:31:34.937 I need a parts bin like that. 00:31:35.057 --> 00:31:38.477 Yeah. Thank you, Alex. Very, very appreciative. And, you know, 00:31:38.537 --> 00:31:45.057 even knowing how small these boxes are, I was still surprised when I took it out of the box. 00:31:45.057 --> 00:31:49.677 And it you know it's slightly larger than my hand is really the size of the 00:31:49.677 --> 00:31:51.297 thing it's it's remarkable it's. 00:31:51.297 --> 00:31:52.597 One liter chris it's in the name. 00:31:52.597 --> 00:31:58.237 I know i know i know but still actually holding it uh was shocked plenty of 00:31:58.237 --> 00:32:03.877 ports on here it's got your display ports your hdmi's it's got some usb uh and 00:32:03.877 --> 00:32:08.297 of course it's got an ethernet jack a little wi-fi antenna sticking out the back, 00:32:08.877 --> 00:32:13.977 And then it has a real DC power plug, which I'm very excited about for the future. 00:32:15.037 --> 00:32:20.637 And yeah, there's a little rattle. So I wasn't sure if it maybe got a little damaged in shipping. 00:32:20.837 --> 00:32:24.137 And once I held it in my little hands, I was like, oh, this is very exciting. 00:32:24.297 --> 00:32:27.977 This is actually a great idea. Thank you, everybody who sent these ideas in. 00:32:28.257 --> 00:32:31.777 So I hooked it up as fast as I could. And I just booted like the latest Ubuntu 00:32:31.777 --> 00:32:33.937 ISO on here using Ventoy. 00:32:33.997 --> 00:32:36.177 Wait, wait, wait. You didn't check out the rattling first? 00:32:36.437 --> 00:32:37.497 Well, that's how I checked it out. 00:32:39.357 --> 00:32:40.617 Well done, sir. Well done. 00:32:41.217 --> 00:32:43.697 It works. Okay, then the rattle's not a problem. 00:32:44.837 --> 00:32:48.037 And no vent toy issues that worked as expected? Okay, great. 00:32:49.058 --> 00:32:53.638 Thankfully, Ventoy works great on there. And it has, on the front, very handy. 00:32:53.958 --> 00:32:58.218 Not only does it have a USB-A, but it has a USB-C as well. 00:32:58.998 --> 00:33:04.158 And so when you, you know, on that Ventoy dongle I have, it's like a little 00:33:04.158 --> 00:33:07.338 SSD in there. So it's very fast over USB-C. 00:33:07.518 --> 00:33:11.778 You could just use the system that way. So I booted up in Ubuntu and went through 00:33:11.778 --> 00:33:13.138 just the, you know, the live session. 00:33:13.878 --> 00:33:17.698 And everything got detected. The Ethernet picked up an IP address just fine. 00:33:17.698 --> 00:33:20.038 The disks were in there. And all of that. 00:33:20.298 --> 00:33:24.358 I was able to browse the web. So I went ahead and just repartitioned it since 00:33:24.358 --> 00:33:26.698 Gparted comes on the live session. And I love Gparted. 00:33:27.118 --> 00:33:30.258 Went through and cleared out the main MVME. 00:33:30.698 --> 00:33:33.538 Didn't bother with the windows. I figured I'd just mess with that disk later. 00:33:34.558 --> 00:33:36.278 And cleared it all out. And then, 00:33:36.278 --> 00:33:39.478 you know, rebooted and started the installation process for a server. 00:33:39.578 --> 00:33:43.738 And what we ended up with is pretty nice, of course. 00:33:44.018 --> 00:33:49.058 This little think center is a decent little box in here. It's got a i5-8500T 00:33:49.058 --> 00:33:52.278 and it's got six threads and like the note mentioned, 00:33:52.458 --> 00:33:58.338 32 gigs of RAM in this, which is going to be great because ultimately I'm trying 00:33:58.338 --> 00:34:06.078 to consolidate a Home Assistant Yellow and maybe a couple of Pis or one Pi and an Odroid. 00:34:07.212 --> 00:34:10.972 Down into one machine. So it's going to be a lot on this machine. 00:34:11.092 --> 00:34:13.272 And I think I'm going to be running Home Assistant potentially, 00:34:13.272 --> 00:34:16.072 although I'm not 100% locked in, inside a VM. 00:34:16.992 --> 00:34:24.132 So I set up a Nix OS base on this thing and got KVM installed and had Wes start poking around. 00:34:25.512 --> 00:34:28.972 We thought about a couple of different ways to virtualize Home Assistant OS. 00:34:29.352 --> 00:34:32.272 Kind of ultimately went KVM libvert. Do you want to talk about that a little bit? 00:34:33.092 --> 00:34:36.912 Yeah. I mean, there's a ton of options, right? You're almost spoiled for options. 00:34:37.212 --> 00:34:41.672 I've been keen to try SystemD VM spawn more, although that's very new, 00:34:41.712 --> 00:34:45.792 and it didn't seem like the USB pass-through stuff was really as sophisticated 00:34:45.792 --> 00:34:49.592 as we might want, specifically for trying to virtualize something like Home Assistant. 00:34:50.592 --> 00:34:55.792 LexD or the ForkNow Incis is another good option. That does have robust pass-through options. 00:34:56.372 --> 00:34:59.852 But you'd kind of gotten a base config going. Out of the box, 00:34:59.992 --> 00:35:03.612 in NixOS, it's really quite easy to get, well, KVM going. 00:35:03.632 --> 00:35:07.032 We could just use QMU, But if you want a little more affordances, 00:35:07.272 --> 00:35:11.132 a little more options for like tools to work with stuff that isn't just your 00:35:11.132 --> 00:35:14.792 own custom QEMU script, well, Libvert's a pretty standard option. 00:35:15.692 --> 00:35:19.292 It does mean, you know, you kind of got to go and interact with its world, 00:35:19.452 --> 00:35:21.672 right? Like it has XML files that it wants to make. 00:35:21.792 --> 00:35:26.252 And you got to like make your VM storage pools and tell it about how you want the networking to work. 00:35:26.372 --> 00:35:30.892 But the plus side is it's, I mean, it's got all kinds of affordances to do that 00:35:30.892 --> 00:35:34.912 in a whole bunch of like enterprise complicated ways that are way more than we actually need. 00:35:35.052 --> 00:35:39.332 And so it meant really, like we were able to use Nix OS to create the basic 00:35:39.332 --> 00:35:42.872 bridge setup we wanted, which in particular, you wanted to have Home Assistant 00:35:42.872 --> 00:35:46.992 VM appear as if it was just like another box on your local network, 00:35:46.992 --> 00:35:49.332 so it could really easily talk to all of your devices, right? 00:35:50.316 --> 00:35:54.696 Yeah, because auto-discovery is a huge part of the Home Assistant setup. 00:35:55.156 --> 00:35:59.796 A lot of the new Home Assistant devices that they make, just auto-broadcast. 00:36:00.336 --> 00:36:04.256 So that was something that was definitely needed. And we had some reports of 00:36:04.256 --> 00:36:07.756 people that had tried virtualizing it on, I think, Proxmox, and they had some 00:36:07.756 --> 00:36:09.916 issues with the USB pass-through not always working. 00:36:10.336 --> 00:36:13.936 Thankfully, Alex included that SkyConnect dongle, so we had something to test 00:36:13.936 --> 00:36:21.836 right there. I'll also note, it seems like the Home Assistant blessed path is KVM LibVirt. 00:36:21.956 --> 00:36:25.796 If you're going to virtualize Home Assistant OS, all their documentation kind 00:36:25.796 --> 00:36:27.756 of pushes you down that path. 00:36:27.916 --> 00:36:30.696 It did feel well supported. It would maybe be another way to put it, 00:36:30.776 --> 00:36:32.596 right? Like, yeah, the docs make it super simple. 00:36:32.776 --> 00:36:36.096 They have like QKO images ready to go, which is pretty great. 00:36:36.236 --> 00:36:41.476 So in that sense, it was a very smooth process really to get it going and then 00:36:41.476 --> 00:36:43.296 be able to connect to it and see it. 00:36:43.296 --> 00:36:47.416 And we're able to use the NixOS side for, I mean, later you might like bake 00:36:47.416 --> 00:36:50.716 this stuff in with add-ons or whatnot, but, you know, we were able to bootstrap 00:36:50.716 --> 00:36:54.636 tail scale access and set up some basic sort of port forwarding and stuff. 00:36:54.756 --> 00:36:59.356 So we could get in and talk to the VM either by the LAN or via tail scale. 00:37:00.471 --> 00:37:03.471 It all pretty much worked. I mean, I don't think we, it hasn't really been tried 00:37:03.471 --> 00:37:07.931 in anger yet. It's really a demo setup, but I don't know. What do you think? 00:37:08.231 --> 00:37:11.071 Do you have enough confidence to like try it in production? 00:37:11.831 --> 00:37:16.411 I was pleased to see that I could do a firmware update of the Sky Connect through 00:37:16.411 --> 00:37:20.091 the virtualized Home Assistant instance. That seemed like a good sign there. 00:37:21.091 --> 00:37:25.391 So that's definitely, that's got me feeling more confident. I want to hook up 00:37:25.391 --> 00:37:28.551 a few more USB devices and like you say, actually try it with a few things. 00:37:29.731 --> 00:37:38.891 Um to me i think i also have to like somehow simulate gpu load and i need to 00:37:38.891 --> 00:37:42.271 simulate my load without maybe spending hours moving all of my applications 00:37:42.271 --> 00:37:46.311 over because i really want to see this thing under kind of sustained baseload 00:37:46.311 --> 00:37:49.211 what its power draw is especially if you're going to load up the host. 00:37:49.211 --> 00:37:53.331 Too and you've got your vm going is that going to maintain responsiveness to 00:37:53.331 --> 00:37:56.111 all the home automation you're doing and then yeah. 00:37:56.111 --> 00:37:56.551 Right you. 00:37:56.551 --> 00:38:00.711 Haven't even i think dabbled yet fully with exactly what even the baseline power dry is. 00:38:00.711 --> 00:38:04.391 And that would be my concern is that the home automation stuff or the responsiveness 00:38:04.391 --> 00:38:08.851 suffers when maybe like you know we're we're doing a big jellyfin job or something 00:38:08.851 --> 00:38:14.451 uh before we move too far off of home assistant os you guys know i love home 00:38:14.451 --> 00:38:18.491 assistant and i really respect the work they do over there but my god if you 00:38:18.491 --> 00:38:19.831 want an experience and frustration, 00:38:20.271 --> 00:38:27.951 I challenge you listening to this episode, go download the home assistant image for KVM Libvert. 00:38:28.791 --> 00:38:32.351 Go through, go to their webpage. Don't, don't Google it, but go to their home 00:38:32.351 --> 00:38:36.291 assistant webpage like a regular user would and try to download the image. 00:38:38.191 --> 00:38:41.971 And boost in your results. Tell me if you actually, if you got it. 00:38:43.551 --> 00:38:46.391 I'll zap you back if you actually manage to find it through their website. 00:38:47.411 --> 00:38:49.551 That's rough. So that to me was 00:38:49.551 --> 00:38:52.031 like, I'm not even sure if I'm getting the right thing and all of that. 00:38:52.171 --> 00:38:56.151 I actually downloaded the wrong image the first time and then went back and 00:38:56.151 --> 00:38:58.171 like, oh, nope, this is where I get the QCAV file. 00:38:58.311 --> 00:39:00.591 Okay, they have something already set up. I need to grab that. 00:39:01.351 --> 00:39:04.151 It was a lot. It was a lot of reading to still even end up with the wrong file. 00:39:04.251 --> 00:39:07.111 And that's a little disappointing because the experience, if you just buy their 00:39:07.111 --> 00:39:09.431 hardware where it comes loaded with Home Assistant is the exact opposite. 00:39:09.631 --> 00:39:12.671 It's just so smooth. It's so easy. I was surprised by that. 00:39:13.291 --> 00:39:18.391 But so ultimately, I need to figure out a way to test Jellyfin and ersatz and the whole RAR stack. 00:39:18.511 --> 00:39:21.871 Of course, things like NextCloud need to be able to run on there. 00:39:23.031 --> 00:39:25.971 Audiobookshelf, Music Assistant. I mean, I just have a litany. 00:39:26.111 --> 00:39:29.651 I mean, you can go over the back catalog of the show. I have probably something 00:39:29.651 --> 00:39:31.711 like 30 applications running on this. 00:39:31.791 --> 00:39:33.691 But you just have your Nix config you can move over, right? 00:39:34.571 --> 00:39:37.751 They're all mostly Docker, you know, because this is from years ago, 00:39:38.791 --> 00:39:41.471 which feels a little, when you have like 30 Docker applications, 00:39:41.811 --> 00:39:43.591 that feels kind of just like sprawl. 00:39:44.191 --> 00:39:49.731 I know where most of the application data is, but probably not about 20% of it would be my guess. 00:39:49.871 --> 00:39:52.251 Right, probably a few of them have it just in a folder right there. 00:39:52.391 --> 00:39:55.711 A few of them are using Docker volume. Some of them are using bind mounts to 00:39:55.711 --> 00:39:57.311 a regular spot on your file system. 00:39:57.611 --> 00:39:58.771 Yes, exactly. 00:39:58.951 --> 00:40:00.611 And then a couple other random stuff, who knows? 00:40:01.031 --> 00:40:03.771 And then to really make it all work, I'd have to move the storage over, and I'm not 00:40:03.771 --> 00:40:06.551 ready to commit yet because i'm not sure if all this under actual load 00:40:06.551 --> 00:40:09.691 works so i'm trying to think of a way to simulate gpu load simulate disk 00:40:09.691 --> 00:40:13.611 activity and moderate cpu load that 00:40:13.611 --> 00:40:18.491 i would feel confident that that's a decent estimation maybe some download you 00:40:18.491 --> 00:40:20.931 know what i mean like i need to think of that and then check the power drop 00:40:20.931 --> 00:40:25.511 and then determine if it's a same or less than all my other hardware combined 00:40:25.511 --> 00:40:28.291 that's where i'm kind of at with it now but i'm very impressed with these one 00:40:28.291 --> 00:40:33.411 liter pcs if you weren't concerned about the power at all it's so obvious i'm, 00:40:34.515 --> 00:40:37.335 Let's just say I was, I never felt like it was slow. I never, 00:40:37.355 --> 00:40:41.395 I never had, you know, I do sometimes feel like that with the O-Droid and definitely with the yellow. 00:40:41.535 --> 00:40:44.095 Yeah. You and I were both like simultaneously kind of banging away, 00:40:44.335 --> 00:40:47.315 working on stuff, doing NixOS builds without even telling each other. 00:40:47.535 --> 00:40:49.575 And yeah, it was doing just fine. 00:40:50.115 --> 00:40:53.955 I would imagine this thing has a fan in it, which your other computers don't. 00:40:54.075 --> 00:40:56.895 So I'm curious about audible levels. 00:40:57.035 --> 00:40:59.295 Cause you're going to have this tucked away in the, in the RV somewhere. 00:40:59.515 --> 00:41:00.675 Are you worried about that in any way? 00:41:01.515 --> 00:41:04.455 You know, I never heard it spin up. It would be in the booth, 00:41:04.515 --> 00:41:06.175 so I don't think it would be too big of a problem. 00:41:07.035 --> 00:41:12.795 If it did spin up, I don't think it would be too bad. So I'm ultimately dedicating 00:41:12.795 --> 00:41:17.735 right now the 256 gigabyte SSD that came in there, the separate disk that came in there. 00:41:18.055 --> 00:41:26.015 I'm dedicating that to the KVM VM storage pool, and I've decided to format it in BcacheFS. 00:41:27.095 --> 00:41:30.575 And if I put this thing in production, I intend to keep it as BcacheFS. 00:41:31.855 --> 00:41:34.875 And i feel good about it i went through i reviewed 00:41:34.875 --> 00:41:37.855 like some ideal mount options for a bcash 00:41:37.855 --> 00:41:43.995 fs file system nothing too surprising in there uh i did turn compress on because 00:41:43.995 --> 00:41:47.295 you know these are vm images some of them are have you know large sparse sections 00:41:47.295 --> 00:41:51.835 i turned on no access time and things like that to just try to improve overall 00:41:51.835 --> 00:41:56.035 performance but uh i didn't tell you ahead of time that i was going to do that west no. 00:41:56.035 --> 00:42:00.115 You did not um i actually first noticed because there was kind of a weird i 00:42:00.115 --> 00:42:03.935 think you'd run into some problems as you were trying mount options so there was. 00:42:03.935 --> 00:42:04.275 Like an. 00:42:04.275 --> 00:42:07.915 Artifact from some of your um vibe coding that left. 00:42:07.915 --> 00:42:08.335 Like a. 00:42:08.335 --> 00:42:10.835 System d script that was doing the mount so one of the first things. 00:42:10.835 --> 00:42:11.275 I did was. 00:42:11.275 --> 00:42:14.215 Clean that up and i made it like a regular file system yeah. 00:42:14.215 --> 00:42:20.635 Well here's i want what i wanted was i was researching the mount options and 00:42:20.635 --> 00:42:25.335 this is just a great thing because you can go out and do it for me um but the one i decided to yolo, 00:42:26.608 --> 00:42:30.508 Because it was like, this is something you could try, and I decided to try to 00:42:30.508 --> 00:42:34.368 brute force it, is Bcache FS not only does it have compress, 00:42:34.688 --> 00:42:39.108 which is dope, and everybody should use for their NASs and SSDs and stuff, 00:42:39.248 --> 00:42:41.468 but it has background compress, 00:42:41.828 --> 00:42:43.748 which I think is obvious what that does, right? 00:42:43.768 --> 00:42:46.628 It's when the system isn't as busy, when there's some spare cycles, 00:42:46.848 --> 00:42:50.208 then it attends to the compressing. 00:42:50.448 --> 00:42:52.828 Well, that sounds exactly like 00:42:52.828 --> 00:42:58.368 what I want, right? Who wants this crazy compress at write and read? No. 00:42:58.848 --> 00:43:02.388 Do it in the background. So I went ahead and said, yeah, let's throw that in 00:43:02.388 --> 00:43:07.408 there, which then I rebooted the system and got the emergency console. 00:43:08.368 --> 00:43:13.828 It almost came all the way up. And then I got the emergency console. Oh, OK. 00:43:14.608 --> 00:43:19.748 OK. All right. So I go in, and the solution that the machine came up with, 00:43:19.808 --> 00:43:22.508 because I wanted to keep the background compressed, because that's a dope option, 00:43:22.668 --> 00:43:28.788 is I had the machine try to mount the file system at a different point so it 00:43:28.788 --> 00:43:32.708 wouldn't take the system out if it doesn't work. And I used SystemD to do that. 00:43:33.548 --> 00:43:34.188 Yeah, okay. 00:43:34.308 --> 00:43:37.788 But it was still kicking errors when it tried to mount the file system, 00:43:37.788 --> 00:43:41.728 so ultimately I wasn't getting a reliable mount. It just wasn't taking the system out. 00:43:42.548 --> 00:43:45.368 So I had to capitulate, and I took the background compressed out for now. 00:43:45.828 --> 00:43:47.568 But it still has compression on it. 00:43:48.108 --> 00:43:51.048 Well, I'm just excited because now you're kind of like keyed in. 00:43:51.208 --> 00:43:54.288 You'll be following the Bcache updates that I keep sending you. 00:43:54.408 --> 00:43:54.508 Ray. 00:43:55.048 --> 00:43:57.188 And you can try more of the features as they keep landing. 00:43:58.388 --> 00:43:59.188 Although, so... 00:44:01.659 --> 00:44:05.559 We're working on this thing, Wes and I. And, you know, I got it pretty far, 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.579 but I had to step away for like three or four hours on Saturday for kids stuff. 00:44:09.579 --> 00:44:14.279 And I come back and Wes is like, by the way, I switched it over to the Zen kernel. 00:44:17.579 --> 00:44:19.059 I'm like, oh, good, good. 00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:21.079 I figured you'd want that. 00:44:21.779 --> 00:44:24.899 It crossed my mind. It had crossed my mind. But then I'm like, 00:44:25.759 --> 00:44:27.599 no, that's too crazy for a server. 00:44:27.939 --> 00:44:30.819 I'm not going to do that for my server. I want. We're like, this thing's going 00:44:30.819 --> 00:44:33.199 to be a VM host. I need to be an adult. 00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:36.539 Maybe I should even use the LTS kernel. I'm thinking to myself, 00:44:36.939 --> 00:44:38.179 especially if I got BcacheFS. 00:44:38.539 --> 00:44:41.839 And then I come back and Wes is like, yeah, I zenned it up. Totally latest version. 00:44:42.619 --> 00:44:46.139 Click right on the edge. I'm like, all right, we're going with it. Let's do it. 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.079 Yeah, that's right. 617 7-zen1. 00:44:49.879 --> 00:44:54.999 Why not? It might help with the overall Jellyfin performance. 00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.179 We do have NF tables on there for a few things like Wes was talking about. 00:44:59.879 --> 00:45:05.419 ButterFS on the root, so my root file system for the host is not Bcache. That's just for the VMs. 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.679 The root is still Butter, but I do have automatic scrubbing and weekly trims 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.799 for the SSD and MVME, both on BcacheFS and ButterFS. 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:21.059 Like Wes said, we went with KVM and LibVert, and we bridged the VM to the local 00:45:21.059 --> 00:45:24.979 network, and just sort of were able to declare all of that in the NixOS config. 00:45:25.839 --> 00:45:28.799 I would love feedback from the audience on this. 00:45:29.759 --> 00:45:32.799 Bear in mind, I'm coming from a Home Assistant Yellow. It has like two gigs 00:45:32.799 --> 00:45:37.499 of RAM and, you know, like a Raspberry Pi 4 processor. But I'm thinking... 00:45:39.084 --> 00:45:44.244 Four gigs of ram is probably enough but that's a bit i'd like feedback on and two virtual cpus. 00:45:44.884 --> 00:45:50.384 Yeah i think those values came from the uh their install guide they had some 00:45:50.384 --> 00:45:54.024 like default sort of like oh run this um vert install command to kind of get 00:45:54.024 --> 00:45:57.704 started and so we've started there but yeah i wonder like it sounds like jeff 00:45:57.704 --> 00:46:01.584 might be using this maybe other audience members have tried it out and if they i may. 00:46:01.584 --> 00:46:04.284 Have now i'm thinking about i think i actually upped it to eight gigs in the 00:46:04.284 --> 00:46:06.244 actual config i might have upped it to eight gigs. 00:46:06.244 --> 00:46:06.964 Excellent i. 00:46:06.964 --> 00:46:10.064 Think i went eight gigabytes of two CPUs dedicated. 00:46:11.384 --> 00:46:16.404 And I'd like feedback from the audience if that seems to be sufficient for Home 00:46:16.404 --> 00:46:19.224 Assistant OS where I'm going to have a handful of, well, you know, 00:46:20.184 --> 00:46:24.004 a dozen add-ons probably and stuff like that and probably 300 devices talking to it. 00:46:24.484 --> 00:46:27.084 You might be able to flash ESPs now. Congratulations. 00:46:27.564 --> 00:46:29.864 That's what I'm hoping is I'll have enough memory for ESP Home. 00:46:30.084 --> 00:46:31.404 Oh, we got to test that. 00:46:31.584 --> 00:46:36.484 I know. It's a tight line to walk here because Home Assistant's just one of 00:46:36.484 --> 00:46:39.444 the many, many things this box would end up doing. 00:46:39.744 --> 00:46:44.464 And so if this was only doing Home Assistant, I just let it eat up a lot of the RAM. 00:46:44.584 --> 00:46:47.684 But I do need to actually, so I don't know if I'm throwing things away with 00:46:47.684 --> 00:46:50.384 eight gigs or four gigs like Home Assistant recommends is the sweet spot. 00:46:50.484 --> 00:46:53.304 The problem is at one point they recommended two and here I am, 00:46:53.344 --> 00:46:54.984 I'm bumping up against that all the time. 00:46:55.104 --> 00:46:59.184 A little bird in our chat says maybe this machine can actually take 64 gigs 00:46:59.184 --> 00:47:00.864 despite being advertised as 32. 00:47:01.084 --> 00:47:03.404 So that might solve your issue here. 00:47:03.984 --> 00:47:10.004 Great, Scott. And then I am going to use the SkyConnect, I believe, for my Zigbee. 00:47:10.224 --> 00:47:15.784 And I think I'm going to use the ZWA 2, whatever that fancy Home Assistant Z-Wave 00:47:15.784 --> 00:47:17.184 adapter is for the Z-Wave stuff. 00:47:17.964 --> 00:47:21.584 Although that makes a lot more work. It's a lot easier if I just move the existing adapters. 00:47:23.876 --> 00:47:25.796 I may just have to bite that bullet. I'm not sure. 00:47:26.116 --> 00:47:29.316 Yeah, so far it seemed like the USB pass-through worked just fine. 00:47:29.416 --> 00:47:32.036 We definitely saw it inside Home Assistant, saw it and all that. 00:47:32.136 --> 00:47:36.216 We haven't tried it in terms of actually talking over the radio or anything, but hey. 00:47:36.436 --> 00:47:39.856 Nope. For more flash, though. For more flash. 00:47:39.996 --> 00:47:41.916 Oh, yeah, right. So that's a good sign. 00:47:41.996 --> 00:47:44.396 That was good. I haven't got a good sense of the power readings. 00:47:44.516 --> 00:47:48.576 That's what I'm going to be spending my time on between now and the next episode, 00:47:48.636 --> 00:47:50.396 just kind of getting a sense of what the power usage is. 00:47:50.396 --> 00:47:54.036 The thing that i have to really just underscore for me that's such a big deal 00:47:54.036 --> 00:47:59.096 is that it does natively have a dc plug on the back so down the road i could 00:47:59.096 --> 00:48:02.716 just take the ac adapter out of the picture entirely and for me that's a pretty 00:48:02.716 --> 00:48:04.896 big deal it could be a nice little savings because, 00:48:06.516 --> 00:48:10.796 inverting that the way the inverter works is the actual the less amount that 00:48:10.796 --> 00:48:14.136 it's inverting the worse the efficiency is so when something like that's only 00:48:14.136 --> 00:48:19.056 drawing 20 30 watts uh i lose like 40% in the inversion. 00:48:19.456 --> 00:48:22.496 It's actually really rough. Whereas if I just go straight to DC, 00:48:22.676 --> 00:48:25.116 I don't, it's all, there's no efficiency loss there. 00:48:25.276 --> 00:48:28.136 So that's something I'll be thinking about, but I'm very, very impressed with 00:48:28.136 --> 00:48:32.576 the one liter PC, especially this little Lenovo and just took Linux like a champ. 00:48:32.736 --> 00:48:35.456 Absolutely no problem getting Linux on there. Total compatibility, 00:48:35.776 --> 00:48:39.316 all the devices work and the performance seems to be really good. 00:48:39.496 --> 00:48:43.996 So this is, I'd say, best case scenario for me. And I'm extremely grateful for 00:48:43.996 --> 00:48:45.156 Alex for sending this in. 00:48:45.416 --> 00:48:48.696 We're going to keep building on it And probably not next week, 00:48:48.756 --> 00:48:51.276 but in the future, a little bit down the road, I'll have an update once I've 00:48:51.276 --> 00:48:53.856 really tried it and put it through its paces. 00:48:53.936 --> 00:48:56.816 Stay tuned for Chris, Chris's One Leader Power Pulse. 00:49:01.896 --> 00:49:06.476 Unraid.net slash unplugged. Your system's unleashed, are you? 00:49:06.836 --> 00:49:10.036 The biggest Unraid sale of the year is almost here. 00:49:10.436 --> 00:49:12.996 Mark your calendars if you're listening to this when this episode drops. 00:49:13.276 --> 00:49:17.776 Cyber Weekend for Unraid is going to run from November 28th through December 00:49:17.776 --> 00:49:23.816 1st. So get ready for 20% off starter licenses, 25% off the Unleash licenses 00:49:23.816 --> 00:49:25.156 and your upgrades, of course. 00:49:25.316 --> 00:49:26.656 Plus, you're also going to get 00:49:26.656 --> 00:49:29.936 a merch store voucher with every qualifying purchase. So here's what's up. 00:49:30.096 --> 00:49:34.736 That means you're going to save on even more on, say, a new tee or maybe a backpack 00:49:34.736 --> 00:49:38.096 or a jacket and all the hats, 20% off through December. 00:49:38.296 --> 00:49:40.436 So if you're going to upgrade your array, maybe, I don't know, 00:49:40.496 --> 00:49:41.756 you've been experimenting with VMs. 00:49:42.296 --> 00:49:46.256 Who would be doing that right now or building out a massive Docker fleet? 00:49:46.416 --> 00:49:48.856 I don't know who could have actually done that over time. Well, 00:49:48.936 --> 00:49:54.256 Cyber Weekend is the best time to expand your server and truly unleash your setup. 00:49:54.436 --> 00:49:58.776 So mark your calendar, prep your build list, and get ready to save on Unraid, 00:49:58.896 --> 00:50:01.536 November 28th through December 1st. 00:50:01.696 --> 00:50:05.196 Go to unraid.net slash unplugged to kick it all off, support the show. 00:50:05.356 --> 00:50:08.776 It all starts November 28th, and it goes through December 1st. 00:50:08.876 --> 00:50:12.216 Big sales, unraid.net slash unplugged. 00:50:14.023 --> 00:50:17.323 Join crowd health dot com and use the promo code unplugged. 00:50:17.603 --> 00:50:20.703 Making informed decisions about health care is getting tougher and tougher. 00:50:20.943 --> 00:50:24.283 It's also becoming a political football, which makes it very frustrating. 00:50:24.663 --> 00:50:28.023 But it is open enrollment season. That's the season where the health insurance 00:50:28.023 --> 00:50:32.303 companies are going to hope you'll just sign up again and just swallow those 00:50:32.303 --> 00:50:35.063 overpriced premiums and the confusing fine print. 00:50:35.723 --> 00:50:40.723 This is where CrowdHealth comes in. I have been a member for over three years. 00:50:40.863 --> 00:50:44.023 And don't take my word for it. Go check it out. Go to joincrowdhealth.com. 00:50:44.143 --> 00:50:46.943 It's a healthcare alternative for people who make their own decisions. 00:50:47.323 --> 00:50:52.183 I'm a small business owner, very small business. This was a absolute must do 00:50:52.183 --> 00:50:54.543 for us. My wife and I both own our own businesses. 00:50:55.143 --> 00:50:58.343 We have saved thousands of dollars using CrowdHealth. 00:50:58.723 --> 00:51:02.183 Stop playing that insurance game. Go join CrowdHealth. It's a community of people 00:51:02.183 --> 00:51:04.963 that fund each other's medical bills directly. No middlemen, 00:51:05.103 --> 00:51:06.303 no networks, no nonsense. 00:51:06.723 --> 00:51:10.223 I see so many success stories on social media all the time. 00:51:10.343 --> 00:51:13.743 But as a member myself, you know, just being in the system, I've watched the 00:51:13.743 --> 00:51:14.963 process work and I love it. 00:51:15.683 --> 00:51:18.403 You know, I'm very comfortable with it. It gives me peace of mind. 00:51:18.583 --> 00:51:20.923 I have seen the system work over and over again. 00:51:21.103 --> 00:51:24.363 And they have a great app to manage all of it. It's very straightforward when 00:51:24.363 --> 00:51:26.823 you're going to start the process or if you have an emergency situation or, 00:51:26.943 --> 00:51:30.023 you know, you just want like kind of like somebody to ask some questions. 00:51:30.083 --> 00:51:32.123 They have an app that handles all of it. 00:51:32.443 --> 00:51:37.483 This is CrowdHealth. It's a health insurance alternative. It's healthcare for under $100. 00:51:37.923 --> 00:51:41.523 You get access to a team of health bill negotiators, low-cost prescriptions, 00:51:41.763 --> 00:51:43.743 and lab testing tools, as well 00:51:43.743 --> 00:51:47.923 as a database of low-cost, high-quality doctors vetted by CrowdHealth. 00:51:48.063 --> 00:51:52.783 If something happens, you pay the first $500, then the crowd steps in to fund the rest. 00:51:53.323 --> 00:51:56.803 This is how things should be, and it lets you take power back here. 00:51:57.023 --> 00:51:59.643 The system is betting you're just going to stay in the same stuck, 00:51:59.883 --> 00:52:02.163 overpriced, continually overpriced system. 00:52:03.635 --> 00:52:06.115 And if those subsidies expire, which they seem like they're going to, 00:52:06.435 --> 00:52:07.755 prices could go sky high. 00:52:08.895 --> 00:52:12.175 CrowdHealth has saved members over $40 million in health care expenses because 00:52:12.175 --> 00:52:15.715 they just refuse to overpay for health care. It's open enrollment, so take your power back. 00:52:15.955 --> 00:52:20.735 Join CrowdHealth. Get started today for $99 for your first three months. Can you believe it? 00:52:21.115 --> 00:52:23.075 And it's real. It's real. I've done it. 00:52:23.635 --> 00:52:27.655 It's great. Go to joincrowdhealth.com. Use the promo code unplugged. 00:52:27.755 --> 00:52:30.755 It's joincrowdhealth.com and then promo code unplugged. 00:52:31.175 --> 00:52:33.975 CrowdHealth is not insurance. opt out and take your power back. 00:52:34.155 --> 00:52:39.515 This is how we win and make a difference. Join crowdhealth.com, promo code UNPLUGGED. 00:52:43.695 --> 00:52:52.055 Welcome to the Boost segment. We first have Marcel here, Buller Booster, with 22,444 sets. 00:52:58.335 --> 00:53:03.735 Marcel boosted our episode 640, The deuce configolo desktop gigolo. 00:53:04.335 --> 00:53:05.995 Thank you for that. He says, I 00:53:05.995 --> 00:53:10.415 tried to boost a config confessions related message, but it was too long. 00:53:10.575 --> 00:53:14.555 I sent it in via the contact page instead, but I still wanted to send in some value. 00:53:15.055 --> 00:53:18.655 Thank you, Marcel. I have that tag for the post show because it's kind of in depth. 00:53:19.115 --> 00:53:21.615 So I don't know if we're going to get into it in the show, but I have it saved 00:53:21.615 --> 00:53:24.655 for us. I went and grabbed his email. Thank you, Marcel. 00:53:25.675 --> 00:53:28.735 Didrell's here with 3,661 sats. 00:53:30.215 --> 00:53:34.355 Well i messed up something fountain so sorry about my username uh but after 00:53:34.355 --> 00:53:39.355 a six five on my config i wanted to say thank you also this is a zip code boost 00:53:39.355 --> 00:53:40.595 but it has to be multiplied, 00:53:41.415 --> 00:53:46.935 by 15 whoa oh boy yeah get your calculator out and then grab the map does the map even have. 00:53:46.935 --> 00:53:48.575 A calculator module i don't know. 00:53:48.575 --> 00:53:52.295 If i kept that i think the map has python so. 00:53:52.295 --> 00:53:53.115 You could just use that. 00:53:53.115 --> 00:53:56.675 You're right yeah it definitely has a python interpreter well how could it three 00:53:56.675 --> 00:54:00.035 six six one three six six one times fifteen. 00:54:02.735 --> 00:54:06.995 Does the post office, can I leave the equation on there and they'll figure out 00:54:06.995 --> 00:54:08.355 what zip code I'm talking about? No. 00:54:08.835 --> 00:54:10.415 Do they have an LLM that'll do that for you? 00:54:10.775 --> 00:54:13.495 Yeah, as they're scanning, you know, and doing the fingerprint, you know. 00:54:14.515 --> 00:54:22.115 Okay, we get 54915. And that is a zip code assigned to Appleton, Wisconsin. 00:54:23.355 --> 00:54:25.215 Hey, hello, Wisconsin. 00:54:25.475 --> 00:54:29.315 Yeah, it covers areas in a few different counties, including Winnebago. 00:54:29.675 --> 00:54:33.015 Although apples are our thing, so get out of our thing. Appleton. 00:54:34.295 --> 00:54:35.675 Don't make us fight about apples. 00:54:36.555 --> 00:54:38.895 Don't, yeah, you don't want Washington fighting about apples. 00:54:39.175 --> 00:54:42.075 Woo! Thank you, Didrell. Nice to hear from you, and thank you for that boost. 00:54:43.095 --> 00:54:48.355 BTC is my 401k boost in with 4,590 sets. 00:54:51.195 --> 00:54:56.735 Elevation boost, boosting from my mountain home in Southern California. Oh, fun. 00:54:57.475 --> 00:55:02.515 Do you get snow up there at 4,509 to fight? in California? 00:55:04.835 --> 00:55:08.235 I'm genuinely curious. In Southern California, do you get snow at that elevation? 00:55:09.095 --> 00:55:10.495 I don't know how the earth works. 00:55:12.375 --> 00:55:13.835 That's beautiful. That's beautiful. 00:55:14.495 --> 00:55:16.075 Hello up there. Thank you for the boost. 00:55:16.995 --> 00:55:21.935 What is it about the idea of living up in elevation sounds so appealing to me? 00:55:22.055 --> 00:55:22.935 I don't know what that is. 00:55:23.015 --> 00:55:24.895 Because it's been a while since you've moved a couch. 00:55:26.775 --> 00:55:28.795 I've lived at sea level for too long. 00:55:32.175 --> 00:55:35.615 Jeff, guy on the floor Do you know if they get snow up there? 00:55:36.175 --> 00:55:42.375 Yeah, they do Depends on where he's at But yeah, you got Big Bear You got all 00:55:42.375 --> 00:55:46.235 those mountainous areas over there I got snow at about 3,700 feet In Asperia, 00:55:46.315 --> 00:55:47.475 California, back in the day. 00:55:47.475 --> 00:55:49.335 And that's Jeff with the weather. 00:55:51.615 --> 00:55:55.055 PJ with the weather, thank you PJ Well. 00:55:55.135 --> 00:55:59.655 Badu High Sent in a boost 2001 sets. 00:56:02.513 --> 00:56:07.213 Hey, I was user 75 from last episode, and yes, you guys got that postal code 00:56:07.213 --> 00:56:10.093 right, and yes, the weather was pretty nice that day. 00:56:10.573 --> 00:56:11.053 Yeah. 00:56:11.293 --> 00:56:16.613 Nice. I like it. We got it right. Also, a little clarification there. 00:56:16.773 --> 00:56:20.433 Yeah. He says, uh, to Brent's question there on the postal codes, 00:56:20.553 --> 00:56:25.453 Brazilian postal codes do have this long but simple format with a dash that 00:56:25.453 --> 00:56:28.193 can identify an address right down to the street. 00:56:28.433 --> 00:56:32.893 That is why I didn't send my actual postal code. It's way too precise. 00:56:33.973 --> 00:56:34.773 Good thinking. 00:56:34.993 --> 00:56:38.973 And he finishes up here. Looks like I missed my chance for the addition of config 00:56:38.973 --> 00:56:42.513 confessions, but it was my fault. I did submit it pretty late. 00:56:42.813 --> 00:56:45.433 I guess I'll wait for next year's config confessions. 00:56:46.333 --> 00:56:50.453 Missed it by that much. Sorry about that. Thank you for the boost, 00:56:50.533 --> 00:56:52.873 though. Anonymous comes in with a row of decks. 00:56:54.313 --> 00:56:57.933 2,222 sats. It was awesome seeing y'all at Texas Linux Fest. 00:56:58.093 --> 00:57:01.933 I wanted to join in the config confessions. this is my first ever git repo and 00:57:01.933 --> 00:57:05.133 i just recently moved to using flakes about two months ago things are a bit 00:57:05.133 --> 00:57:09.133 messy i'm also currently working on adding my other hosts and i'll add the host 00:57:09.133 --> 00:57:13.453 readme to change it when i do all right we'll tag that for the post show as well for the members, 00:57:14.553 --> 00:57:18.553 thank you anonymous or perhaps tie fighter and good job getting your first git 00:57:18.553 --> 00:57:21.653 repo going as brent will tell you that's important yeah. 00:57:21.653 --> 00:57:22.553 And working with flakes. 00:57:22.553 --> 00:57:27.653 That's true yeah well done well effing done jasko. 00:57:27.653 --> 00:57:30.293 Comes in with five thousand sets, 00:57:32.573 --> 00:57:36.753 with all the fun around the config confessions i think it would be cool if love 00:57:36.753 --> 00:57:41.393 hosted a sort of hackathon maybe announce a theme or a couple categories a few 00:57:41.393 --> 00:57:45.993 weeks before the show and have you guys roast our projects maybe in place of 00:57:45.993 --> 00:57:49.933 the tuxies it certainly has that same community engagement aspect anyway. 00:57:51.758 --> 00:57:54.478 Hey, now you know, this is an interesting idea. 00:57:55.338 --> 00:57:59.098 Especially if we did like a home lab thing where like if people had a home lab 00:57:59.098 --> 00:58:02.738 project they've been wanting to get done, we could do like a two week sprint. 00:58:03.658 --> 00:58:06.318 And then at the end they send us their setups and we give them a review and 00:58:06.318 --> 00:58:09.558 tell them how they did. You know, so it's their excuse to finally buckle down 00:58:09.558 --> 00:58:11.458 and just get something done. I want to, because I do that. 00:58:11.478 --> 00:58:12.938 Artificial deadline, a thing to me. 00:58:13.058 --> 00:58:13.258 Yeah. 00:58:13.318 --> 00:58:14.278 Yeah, push for. Yeah. 00:58:14.818 --> 00:58:17.858 If that's something people would like, you know, I don't know, 00:58:17.958 --> 00:58:19.858 we need a name for it. We need a good name. 00:58:20.638 --> 00:58:24.318 And if we get a good name, if somebody sends a good name, that's a sign we should do it, I think. 00:58:25.078 --> 00:58:29.538 Thank you, Jasko. It's a pretty good idea. I like that. I like that. 00:58:29.998 --> 00:58:34.878 Well, our dear Gene Bean is here with a row of ducks. Hey, y'all. 00:58:35.478 --> 00:58:39.678 PinchFlight is awesome. I know you mentioned it many times, but it's so much 00:58:39.678 --> 00:58:40.958 nicer than I even realized. 00:58:41.478 --> 00:58:46.658 As a bonus, integrated the containerized version of Jellyfin that comes from 00:58:46.658 --> 00:58:48.898 Nick's packages. And that was pretty straightforward. 00:58:49.858 --> 00:58:52.758 And he links to, Gene B links to his GitHub repo. 00:58:53.298 --> 00:58:56.278 Well done, Gene B, and glad you got a chance to try it out. 00:58:56.538 --> 00:59:01.098 It's pretty great. Gene's links right to the actual pull request and diff that 00:59:01.098 --> 00:59:05.798 kind of shows, like, updating the secrets for it and adding a NixOS file that 00:59:05.798 --> 00:59:09.658 sets up OCI containerization to declaratively run the container. 00:59:09.858 --> 00:59:10.298 Nice. 00:59:11.058 --> 00:59:14.658 I think where it really clicks with Pinch Flat is when you pull it up in Jellyfin 00:59:14.658 --> 00:59:20.238 or Plex, and it looks equivalent to all your other media, but it's the stuff on YouTube. 00:59:20.758 --> 00:59:25.078 And now you don't have to go down the YouTube rabbit hole and get sucked into a whole bunch of stuff. 00:59:25.318 --> 00:59:28.758 You just go in there, you're playing it locally through your media center where 00:59:28.758 --> 00:59:31.498 you watch all your other content and it just integrates with the rest of the 00:59:31.498 --> 00:59:34.158 stuff you watch. I think it's great. Thank you, Gene. 00:59:34.798 --> 00:59:40.038 Good to hear from you. Woodland Geeks is here with 4,321 sats. 00:59:43.166 --> 00:59:50.406 Hey, finally got to boost. Hey-oh, good for you. The Utah app at the end of last show was on point. 00:59:50.566 --> 00:59:53.126 I have been looking for something like this. I got it working yesterday, 00:59:53.286 --> 00:59:56.706 and I had a couple of setup glitches, but the creator was Johnny on the spot 00:59:56.706 --> 00:59:59.226 with the game issues. Oh, that's always so great. 00:59:59.406 --> 00:59:59.426 That's rad. 01:00:00.226 --> 01:00:03.066 And an area where free software can sometimes really shine. 01:00:03.166 --> 01:00:05.486 You don't want to put expectations on the developer, but you're just never going 01:00:05.486 --> 01:00:08.286 to get that from, you know, Microsoft or something. 01:00:08.566 --> 01:00:10.866 That's great. Love to hear that. Thank you, Woodland. 01:00:10.866 --> 01:00:15.206 Hodor comes in with 18,500 sats. 01:00:16.817 --> 01:00:19.857 Hi there, long-time listener, first-time caller. 01:00:20.297 --> 01:00:21.137 All right! 01:00:22.417 --> 01:00:27.117 I wanted to highlight a Linux conference close to my heart, Ohio Linux Fest, 01:00:27.257 --> 01:00:28.917 happening Saturday, December 6th. 01:00:29.177 --> 01:00:34.077 I've attended for over a decade, but attendance has dropped the last few years. 01:00:34.277 --> 01:00:36.417 I'm hoping to boost awareness here in the colony. 01:00:36.677 --> 01:00:40.517 It's affordable, fun, and I've certainly made new connections there. 01:00:40.717 --> 01:00:44.917 And maybe with some support, it'll return to the two- or three-day event it 01:00:44.917 --> 01:00:48.617 once was. check it out at holfconference.org. 01:00:49.457 --> 01:00:53.677 And you know what it was because of your boost Hodor when I saw this or Hodor 01:00:53.677 --> 01:00:56.817 when this came in earlier I was like putting that in the housekeeping, 01:00:57.477 --> 01:01:00.597 so it's something we always like to do but sometimes it's just not on our radar, 01:01:01.237 --> 01:01:04.337 and I appreciate you giving it the awareness we're going to give it a plug here 01:01:04.337 --> 01:01:07.237 and we'll have a link in the show notes for people in the area to go check it out and. 01:01:07.237 --> 01:01:12.857 Maybe you know for folks that do report back let us know how it went because we wish we could be there. 01:01:13.577 --> 01:01:16.877 Well we got a row of ducks from southern fried sassafras, 01:01:18.497 --> 01:01:21.477 i loved config trek into the desktop 01:01:21.477 --> 01:01:24.277 i mean deuce configulo desktop gigolo well i 01:01:24.277 --> 01:01:30.177 know i didn't include it in the boost just to make one of you say it again i'd 01:01:30.177 --> 01:01:34.497 never do something like that in all seriousness plus one for a part three of 01:01:34.497 --> 01:01:38.877 the config confession series at some point now to jump back to the past and 01:01:38.877 --> 01:01:42.917 catch up on that backlog i wonder who will end up winning the race to texas. 01:01:42.917 --> 01:01:48.557 Don't spoil it don't spoil it you'll never believe what happened next the. 01:01:48.557 --> 01:01:50.157 Tracker did have a bug in it just saying. 01:01:50.157 --> 01:01:55.797 Oh oh this is new this is a very late reported. 01:01:55.797 --> 01:01:56.837 Bug let me just say. 01:01:56.837 --> 01:02:05.557 Now the bug field kicks in wh 2020 50 comes in with 4 444 sats that's a big old mcduck, 01:02:08.496 --> 01:02:11.336 Quick PSA for Unraid users, remember to back up your flash drive, 01:02:11.476 --> 01:02:15.416 not just your data pools. I just upgraded to 7.2, and on reboot, my flash drive died. 01:02:16.596 --> 01:02:21.176 Oh, man. After way too long refusing to admit it was dead, I finally grabbed 01:02:21.176 --> 01:02:23.976 a new one, only to find my backup was a year old. 01:02:24.076 --> 01:02:27.176 Fortunately, Unraid is awesome, and all my VMs and containers still loaded up and ran. 01:02:27.596 --> 01:02:30.456 However, any container I set up after the backup didn't have a template, 01:02:30.616 --> 01:02:31.796 so it would not have to run. 01:02:32.076 --> 01:02:35.076 Luckily, all I had to do was remove the template and reinstall it from the community 01:02:35.076 --> 01:02:38.016 app, and then it picked right back up with all my data still intact. 01:02:39.036 --> 01:02:42.616 This is also a time traveler boost. I'm going through the back catalog. 01:02:42.796 --> 01:02:44.036 So greetings from episode 25. 01:02:44.336 --> 01:02:45.376 That's a typo, right? 01:02:46.536 --> 01:02:51.676 It's fun to listen to all the old stuff with the benefit of hindsight. Yeah, it is. 01:02:52.636 --> 01:02:59.056 Oh, boy, man. Yeah. I love that on Unraid, all that stuff is separate from your 01:02:59.056 --> 01:03:00.876 data. So you can just allocate all your disks. 01:03:01.696 --> 01:03:04.936 Those flash disks, those flash drives, I just don't trust them. 01:03:05.076 --> 01:03:09.316 Not long term. but they're thankfully very easy to duplicate make an image of 01:03:09.316 --> 01:03:14.496 etc right so there's that thank you for the report appreciate it very much WH 01:03:14.496 --> 01:03:17.976 good to hear from you and hope to hear from you in the future. 01:03:20.236 --> 01:03:24.336 Oh and this last one was me we could probably just skip that I should have I. 01:03:24.336 --> 01:03:26.916 Should have trim that oh I was wondering who that was yeah. 01:03:26.916 --> 01:03:27.696 Sorry about that. 01:03:28.196 --> 01:03:34.416 Okay all right all right yeah all right okay then that brings us to And that 01:03:34.416 --> 01:03:37.676 is all of the 2,000 and above boosts for this episode. 01:03:37.836 --> 01:03:41.596 And a shout out to our SAT streamers. 19 of you streamed and you collectively 01:03:41.596 --> 01:03:46.396 stacked 25,467 SATs to support this here show. 01:03:46.516 --> 01:03:52.356 When you combine that with all our boosters, we almost, almost broke 100K SATs. 01:03:52.456 --> 01:03:58.516 99,094 SATs. And when you do the math, that gets split equally between myself, Wes Brent. 01:03:59.116 --> 01:04:02.476 A bit goes to Editor Drew. That goes to the podcast app in the index. 01:04:02.656 --> 01:04:04.156 That's a pretty low haul. 01:04:13.328 --> 01:04:18.128 Although, slightly picked up by a live boost by PJ. 01:04:18.268 --> 01:04:21.788 Although it didn't fire the sound like I wanted. I was hoping for a live boost sound. 01:04:21.928 --> 01:04:27.488 But credit goes to PJ with one, two, three, four, five sats. 01:04:31.248 --> 01:04:35.968 Oh, no, it's True Grits. PJ was just saying he wanted to hear the pew sound with 14,000 sats. 01:04:36.528 --> 01:04:39.828 True Grits had the Spaceballs boost. Surprise, surprise. I'm still making my 01:04:39.828 --> 01:04:44.288 way up to current episodes. Lesson for everybody. Do not ever get behind. There you go. 01:04:44.448 --> 01:04:45.168 Great advice. 01:04:45.588 --> 01:04:48.948 And Jeff just says, I want to hear the pew sound. So here you go. 01:04:50.008 --> 01:04:53.568 There you go, Jeff. Thank you, everybody. Not a fantastic episode, 01:04:53.648 --> 01:04:56.708 but you know what? We really do appreciate the direct support. This is a wild system. 01:04:56.988 --> 01:05:00.428 It's using a free software stack. It's using a peer-to-peer monetary system. 01:05:00.768 --> 01:05:03.848 But the booths are on sale right now. So if you've been thinking about it, 01:05:03.908 --> 01:05:07.228 now it could be a great time to dip in. Best price of the year right now to boost us. 01:05:07.588 --> 01:05:11.048 And you also have that membership. If you just want to set it and forget it, 01:05:11.348 --> 01:05:14.928 linuxunplugged.com slash membership. Thank you to everybody who does support the show. 01:05:15.068 --> 01:05:17.388 This is something that's been going on now for 12 years. 01:05:17.648 --> 01:05:21.728 It's a bit of an odd phenomenon, if you think about it in the media space and 01:05:21.728 --> 01:05:24.568 to have something going for 12 years that's totally aligned to its audience. 01:05:24.768 --> 01:05:27.248 I think it's something special and it's something we should keep going and we 01:05:27.248 --> 01:05:30.148 appreciate everybody who does make it sustainable and does make it possible. 01:05:30.348 --> 01:05:32.828 Here's your taco. We appreciate you very much. 01:05:34.601 --> 01:05:41.341 One little bit before we run is one pick this week. One pick, but it's a good one. 01:05:41.681 --> 01:05:45.301 We've mentioned this a long time on the show. It's called Easy Effects. 01:05:45.581 --> 01:05:49.301 It's had other names, but it's a limiter, compressor, equalizer, 01:05:49.801 --> 01:05:54.541 helps with volume in general for your desktop applications or maybe a video 01:05:54.541 --> 01:05:58.141 or a podcast you're listening to that doesn't have very good levels or the host 01:05:58.141 --> 01:05:59.321 levels are all over the place. 01:05:59.581 --> 01:06:06.421 You can turn Easy Effects on, and it's like having a sound technician for your desktop audio. 01:06:06.781 --> 01:06:10.261 And just recently, and the reason why we're giving it a mention is not only 01:06:10.261 --> 01:06:13.421 is just a great application that you should have, but with the recent release, 01:06:13.561 --> 01:06:17.181 the whole application was ported from GTK4 to a combination of Qt, 01:06:17.241 --> 01:06:19.701 QML, and the Kirigami frameworks. 01:06:20.141 --> 01:06:23.021 So it's got a brand new fresh release. It's on Flathub as well. 01:06:23.781 --> 01:06:25.161 And it's one of our favorites. 01:06:25.321 --> 01:06:28.781 It's so good. It's just, it's so good. It's only gotten better. 01:06:28.961 --> 01:06:33.081 It's easier to use now. It's more automatic. Like, this is a huge update, 01:06:33.121 --> 01:06:36.561 so clearly they're, like, able to keep shipping and iterating. 01:06:36.801 --> 01:06:41.761 And, yeah, like, the ThinkPad I use for show stuff, it has abysmal speakers. 01:06:42.661 --> 01:06:45.981 EasyFX is basically the only way that I can really manage to use them at all. 01:06:46.701 --> 01:06:50.841 I will say, no shame, but a lot of the free software events that I watch that 01:06:50.841 --> 01:06:53.501 are streamed, they always have, like, really low audio. 01:06:54.744 --> 01:06:57.484 Or a buzz and you can just 01:06:57.484 --> 01:07:00.724 you got firefox up or whatever you're watching the video stream you 01:07:00.724 --> 01:07:03.724 open up easy effects you turn it on and you can start moving dials and 01:07:03.724 --> 01:07:06.484 you can take something that's barely audible right up to something you can 01:07:06.484 --> 01:07:10.564 actually manage it's just fantastic it works with pipe wire it's got lots of 01:07:10.564 --> 01:07:14.204 little knobs honestly it's the kind of app that mac users brag about all the 01:07:14.204 --> 01:07:16.984 time and it's something we have right here for linux it should get more attention 01:07:16.984 --> 01:07:21.964 it's got a nice little visualizer too so you get the uh just spectrum easy effects 01:07:21.964 --> 01:07:26.264 8.0 you can get it from GitHub or you can get it from Flathub. It's a great project. 01:07:27.404 --> 01:07:30.584 And I had no idea they were porting it to Qt, but... 01:07:30.584 --> 01:07:34.384 No, me either. But, you know, as a Plasma user, I'm here for it. 01:07:35.004 --> 01:07:39.184 Suits us just fine. Suits us just fine. Links to that and everything else are 01:07:39.184 --> 01:07:42.124 over at linuxunplugged.com slash 641. 01:07:42.284 --> 01:07:44.824 Now, if you missed something or you want to jump around, Wes, 01:07:44.904 --> 01:07:47.704 you've got a power tip for people. Something they can really take advantage of. 01:07:47.824 --> 01:07:53.264 The magic of cloud chapters! Yeah, let's write a JSON file They'll magically 01:07:53.264 --> 01:07:58.164 deliver it from us to you that tells your podcast player where to go in the file. 01:07:58.464 --> 01:08:03.904 And if you need even more specificity, we've got transcripts in SRT and VTT 01:08:03.904 --> 01:08:05.764 format. So pick your favorite. 01:08:06.324 --> 01:08:10.244 Yeah, depending on your player, you may even get the speaker names. 01:08:10.964 --> 01:08:15.104 And for those of you that are on podcasting 1.0 apps, we will bake the chapters 01:08:15.104 --> 01:08:16.704 in for the applications that support it. 01:08:16.884 --> 01:08:20.064 And some of them, like Apple Podcasts, now are adding transcript support as 01:08:20.064 --> 01:08:23.064 well. So some of the 1.0 apps are starting to, and I have to say, 01:08:23.204 --> 01:08:27.544 those are from the podcasting 2.0 standard, which is really great to see. 01:08:27.644 --> 01:08:31.504 So the stuff that we've been producing for years now on all of our shows is 01:08:31.504 --> 01:08:35.164 just immediately available to all Apple podcast users because Apple is implementing 01:08:35.164 --> 01:08:36.424 the podcasting 2.0 standard. 01:08:37.367 --> 01:08:39.867 I don't love that app, but it's really cool to see that happen. 01:08:40.267 --> 01:08:42.327 Power of open source and open standards. 01:08:42.547 --> 01:08:45.987 Yeah, it's neat to see it happen in the podcast space. And if you get one of 01:08:45.987 --> 01:08:49.607 those 2.0 apps that have all the stuff, you can get them over at newpodcastapps.com. 01:08:49.807 --> 01:08:53.567 Then you can tune in live and you can listen to us on Tuesday on a Sunday. 01:08:54.307 --> 01:08:57.407 See you next week. Same bat time, same bat station. 01:08:57.547 --> 01:09:00.187 Yeah, that's right. You can also join our lug. That's another way to listen 01:09:00.187 --> 01:09:04.127 and get in on the conversation. We get together every single Sunday at 10 a.m. 01:09:04.347 --> 01:09:09.567 Pacific. you can find it in your local time at jupiterbroadcasting.com slash calendar. 01:09:09.907 --> 01:09:14.067 Thank you to our members. You get the bootleg with everything and more. 01:09:14.327 --> 01:09:17.927 And of course, thank you for joining us. We wouldn't do this show if you weren't 01:09:17.927 --> 01:09:19.507 listening, so we appreciate you too. 01:09:19.647 --> 01:09:23.887 And let us know your adventures with the one-liter PCs and your thoughts on 01:09:23.887 --> 01:09:26.687 the Valve hardware announcements. We'd love to read those next week. 01:09:26.847 --> 01:09:30.027 Thank you so much for joining us on this week's episode of Your Unplugged Program. 01:09:30.207 --> 01:09:33.467 We'll see you next Tuesday, as in Sunday.
Previous episode Next episode

Search

Search

Listen on

Apple Podcasts Spotify RSS feed